Monday, August 6, 2018

'Make Room for Baby' Recap

Counting On "Make Room for Baby"

First Hour…

  • The show kicks off with a look at Joseph and Kendra’s house, a project that has taken about seven months. Joe has done much of the work, including hardwood floors, cabinets, and countertops, on his own.
  • Previously owned by Grandma Duggar, the house was home to teenage Jim Bob when he met Michelle, and it now sits on Jim Bob and Michelle’s property, about 600 yards from the “big house.”
  • When asked by the producer what some of the drawbacks of living on the Duggar property would be, Jinger replies: “The drawbacks? Just kids looking in the windows 24/7.” Joe and Kendra trust that Joe’s parents will be supportive of their boundaries.
  • While giving Jana and Jessa a tour of the house, Joe and Kendra announce that they are expecting. “This is definitely a honeymoon baby,” says Kendra. “We weren’t expecting to be expecting this soon…”
  • In Laredo, Jinger and Jeremy go piano shopping. “[Jinger] is playing on a little keyboard in the house, and as beautiful as that sounds when she plays all day, I just wanted to see what options there might be to get her a proper piano,” says Jeremy. The Duggar siblings agree that Jinger is the most musically talented in their family.
  • At the big house, Josiah makes fajitas for Lauren. “At this point, I’m still trying to impress Lauren with all my skills and everything I’ve got, outside and in the kitchen, so I think this will turn out right,” says Josiah. Lauren has a gluten sensitivity, which makes the task a bit challenging.
  • Josiah adds some leftover rice and beans to the meal. He finds some guacamole in the fridge, but Lauren tries it and says it tastes awful.
  • Lauren is touched by the meal. “I though it was sweet of him to do it,” says Lauren. “He was trying to make it authentic because I am [Salvadoran], so I like that food.” Apparently, food is Josiah’s love language.
  • During the lunch conversation, we learn that courtship was a new concept to Lauren and her parents but that they were on-board.
  • Thirty weeks into their pregnancy, Joy and Austin have an appointment with their midwife, Lucy. After a finger prick, which Joy does not enjoy, they find out that Joy’s glucose level is a little high but that her iron is good. She is told by the midwife that her diet needs to improve, especially with more greens. Joy is trying to stay away from sugar.
  • “We want a home birth,” says Austin. “We’re going to try, but we’re not going to risk Mom and Baby’s life.” They will set up a birthing pool to have that as an option.
  • “You kind of continue on with your life,” says Austin of the births that he has seen as an EMT. “But it is a lot different because she is my life and this is our life. I don’t know how I’m going to handle myself.
  • Moving day for Joe and Kendra finally arrives. Some of the siblings lend a hand. Jana and the boys work on landscaping. “[Jana] can do a little bit of everything,” says Jessa. “She can wire an outlet. She can run the big machinery. She can do it all. That may be why some of the guys are scared away. Don’t let that be a deterrent. She says it’s okay if the guy’s not as smart as her. Just kidding.”
  • “There’s things that I’m not very good at,” Jana assures viewers. “Sports is one of them. 
  • “Having 18 additional siblings is a lot, but at the same time, when the whole clan is able to come and help, things can get done really fast,” says Kendra. Later, the Duggars and Caldwells arrive for a tour. “The kids have done such a great job on putting this house together,” says Jim Bob.
  • In addition to all the regular rooms, Joe and Kendra also have a game room with a ping pong table. The outside of the house is a cabin, but the inside is modern, with lots of grays and whites.
  • At the end of the tour, the newlyweds open the door to the nursery, decorated by Jana and Jessa. (The furniture was purchased from consignment shops and repurposed by Jessa.) “You’re pregnant?” asks Michelle, giving both of them big hugs.
  • “We were super excited to hear that they were expecting, and we weren’t expecting that they would be expecting so soon!” says Christina Caldwell, Kendra’s mom. She and Paul say they need to come up with cute grandparent names. When Paul suggests Meemaw, Christina laughs and says, “No, that’s awful.”
  • “It seems like we’re having grandbabies faster than we had babies,” says Jim bob.

Second Hour…

  • At 13 weeks, Joe and Kendra have their first obstetrician appointment. Kendra has chosen to deliver in a hospital with Dr. Hannah, recommended by her mom. Kendra has an ultrasound, but the doctor isn’t able to see the gender just yet. “I think it just makes your heart skip a beat when you see the baby in there,” she says.
  • In Downingtown, Pennsylvania, Jinger and Jeremy, who have recently found out that they are expecting, are visiting with Chuck and Diana. During breakfast, Jinger and Jeremy announce their pregnancy with a pair of booties and a note addressed to "Grandma and Grandpa." It takes a moment for Diana to process the news, but she and Chuck are elated. At this point, the only other people who know about the baby are Jessa and Ben.
  • That evening, the Vuolos all attend a gala for Diana’s charity, SWAN, which is a music mentoring program for children whose parents are incarcerated. One of the students sings “Wayfaring Stranger,” and Jinger accompanies on piano.
  • Meanwhile, Joy and Austin are hard at work on their house. They are planning on putting this house on the market a couple months after the baby arrives. At least that’s what Austin is planning. Joy votes for waiting a little longer, but it doesn’t sound like Austin will go for that. “…Since Joy’s been pregnant, that hasn’t really slowed us down,” says Austin.
  • Now in her third trimester, Joy has improved her diet and shares that her health has also improved.
  • John flies Michelle, Jim Bob, Jana, Johannah, Jennifer, Jordyn, Josie, and Mackynzie to Nashville so the little girls can record a CD at Oak Tree Studio. They meet up with Grandma, Aunt Deanna, Amy, and a producer.
  • “The little girls’ CD project I think has been something that my aunt Deanna has always really wanted to do,” says Jana. The project is called Happy Heart and features songs written by Deanna (details coming soon).
  • Josiah takes Lauren and seven of her eight siblings (Lily, 16; David, 14; Lydia, 11; Daniel, 8; Dustin, 6; Drew, 4; Luci, 2) out for ice cream. She also has a newborn brother, Duke, who is two days apart in age from Gideon Forsyth.

99 comments:

  1. Overall impression is that the show is showing events at a much faster pace this season than the last, and by the time of the season finale in the fall, the show will only be 2-3 months behind current events, instead of 9-10 months. They'll probably show Lauren and Josiah's wedding again at the season finale, after showing Gideon and Garrett's births along the way.

    I guess there's even an chance Felicity's birth will be the finale, though this I rather doubt. As John/Abbie hasn't been even hinted at in the promos I think their courtship storyline will be tabled until next season, which will likely start with the "sneak peek" version of THEIR wedding.

    And Jessa's comments inviting men to court Jana DO make me wonder if something might be going on there, too. Certainly TLC producers would be happy to have a Jana courtship to feature two seasons from now. I just hope that if Jana DOES have a suitor, that she doesn't get pressured into a courtship just for the sake of the show.

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  2. How is Lauren Salvadoran? Is she adopted? Are her siblings also adopted? Lauren has such dark hair, while her sister Lily is so blond.

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    1. Yes, what's with that? They didn't explain.

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    2. News flash: latinos can be pale, brown, dark, Indigenous, white, black. There are even Asian and Arab Latinos due to immigrations. I myself am Colombian and very pale with blue eyes. My family has been here since colonization. You can’t just look at someone and tell if they’re Latino because we’re so diverse.

      Also, Lauren looks a whole lot like her mom and her sister. Siblings can have different colored hair because of recessive genes.

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    3. I also noticed that and was trying to figure out which parent she resembles in her looks...

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    4. Lauren's maternal grandmother is Salvadoran.

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    5. I don't question her skin color, I question why she said it in the first place. It didn't make much sense. If she was adopted, why did her parents go on to have so many other children after her? She should have said, "I have Salvadoran ancestors," not state outright that she is Salvadoran. She's American. I have ancestors from another country hundreds of years back in my family tree, but I don't go around saying I'm of that country.

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    6. I was intrigued when Lauren said she was Salvadoran. Were her parents missionaries there? Was she born there and if so, how long did they live there? An interesting fact about this new Duggar bride that I would love to hear more about. Her middle name, “Milagro” means miracle. What a lovely name

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    7. Thank you 327!!!

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    8. Jeremy says that he is Italian all the time and no one questions why he mentions it. Why is it strange Lauren says she is Salvadoran? Many people mention they are Greek or Irish when their family has been in the US for generations. It doesn't seem out of the ordinary to mention a cultural connection to the food being served.

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    9. @ 9:22 am. Actually it is SUPER common for people to refer to their ancestors by saying, "I'm Italian" or "I'm French." Most of the people in the US who know anything about their ancestry do it. Who wants to break it down into "I have 1/8 Irish blood in me, and 1/16 Mexican blood. . ."

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    10. Exactly your last sentence, 6:29. Which is why you simply say, "I'm American," because you live in the US of America. Nobody needs to know more unless they're charting your family tree.

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    11. The Anon at 922AM seems to think that all immigrants should assimilate and become generic "Americans" and forget all about their cultural roots. I heartily disagree but I think this attitude is a minority one these days.

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  3. Okay, Lauren is SO impressive in her interviews, I think she might actually give Jeremy a run for his money as "smartest in-law". (BTW I also think Ben is much smarter than he usually lets on.)

    I also must admit that despite her Latina middle name of Milagro, the reveal that Lauren is "El Salvadorean" (I assume on her mother's side) surprised me. I'm sure I'm not the only one as many fans expressed puzzlement that she would have such a middle name.

    I'm not sure what that means. Did we assume there was no way someone without a stereotypical Hispanic name could have that heritage? Or that the Duggars wouldn't marry someone who wasn't a "lily-white" American, because of stereotypes about white conservative Southern Christians?

    Well, the episode's done something rare for Counting On; make me think about issues other than the Mommy Wars that most of the debate on this blog seems to be about these days. Same goes for the SWAN charity and whether nonviolent drug offenders really should be locked up and kept away from their families for so long (though I'm sure many of the children there have parents in prison for worse crimes, too. )

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    1. I was also surprised about people questioning Lauren's middle name. I think some posters are confused because Lauren doesn't look what they consider to be phenotypically Latina. Marjorie was also Latina and Josiah was allowed to court her without any issue about her cultural roots. It's that the courting couple's families share the same religious beliefs that matter to the Duggars.

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    2. I love to see Jeremy’s mom using her musical experience to spearhead such a helpful, hands on charity. I hope this widens Jessa’s eyes as to how to become involved in helping those in need consistently.

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    3. We're ranking in-laws by IQ now?

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  4. just listened to the girls cd snippits and i must say it put a smile in my heart and took me back to being there age,s and singing some of them songs in church i loved it well done grown ups and a SUPER well doe to the 5 girls its fantastic now hoping someone will post it to youtube as i,m in the UK and can only watch it this way

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  5. Israel was #1 on Lauren's list for travel and Austria was #2. Wonder why they didn't go to Israel? I'm thinking because TLC has never filmed an episode in Austria before?

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    1. For all we know they did. Austin and Joy Anna also spent that latter half of their honeymoon (which the Duggars do seem to interpret literally as in a "moon" being a whole month) in Israel. This was not shown on TLC.

      And since the very existence of the state of Israel is controversial, I can understand why TLC would shy away from filming there. The Duggars are certainly pro-Israel but much of the viewing audience especially outside the US is not. I can imagine all sorts of angry callers asking why TLC is showing the couple enjoying themselves and ignoring the suffering and oppression of the Palestinian people. (BTW before anyone asks I do support the existence of Israel but that doesn't mean I agree with all of the government' policies.)

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    2. 9:24, that is a very ignorant comment. You know much of the viewing audience is not pro Israel how exactly?

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    3. I have many issues with England's government, for example, but I can't imagine being so sensitive that I couldn't watch someone vacationing there! If TLC did what you suspect, I would be very upset that they're holding Israel to a different standard. "We can't show Israel, not everybody likes her."

      "Ignoring the suffering and oppression of the Palestinian people"???? Suffering brought on by themselves and their continual hate and animosity towards the Jewish people.

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  6. I love the reaction of Jeremy's mother to their baby news!

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    1. I know! So very genuine❤️

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  7. Time 4:27AM Tues 9/7/18
    Nice recap.

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  8. I'm guessing Lauren's mum's name starts with an L, since all of the daughters have names with L and all of the sons have names with a D (for Dwain).

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    1. Yes, her mom's name is Lana.

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    2. That is most probably the reason.

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  9. I love the way they are putting this together this season. I love that they show, that these Duggar kids, have many skills, and are hard workers. To see Joy working in her third trimester like it was nothing, speaks volumes. Michelle and Jim Bob has done a beautiful job raising there children to be hard working, to be wise with there money. It's refreshing to see because I'm afraid I have seen a lack of drive in today's 20's. God bless this family for setting a standard.

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    1. My son is 21 and my daughter is 18. She just graduated in May from high school. My son and daughter are both at Duke University. My son graduates in a year with an engineering degree. My daughter is getting her master's in nursing. They also know how to renovate a house since that is what my husband and I do on the side. You can have life skills and still get an education.

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    2. 11:44 You're probably going to get a response about how your kids will graduate "with all that debt and no job," making it worse than never going to college and being put right to work at 16 selling cars or flipping properties with the rest of the family. But you won't get that from me!! I'm with you, and I have no idea what "lack of drive" the OP is seeing. Not in any college town!

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    3. My daughter graduated from Duke law school and is also very self sufficient. I’m super proud of her achievements and so happy she is well educated and can support herself. It makes me sad to hear people putting down education as if it’s a sinful thing to be educated.

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  10. I liked the whole scene with Jeremy's parents when they found out they're going to be grandparents. I loved Diana Vuolo's reaction... it was a priceless moment, very sweet. And I like Jinger describing how she's going to have to learn to wake up to a baby crying, because growing up she'd always fall back asleep as there were older siblings & mother who'd respond to the crying babies.

    I have a safety criticism for Joy though, that she should be wearing work boots when she's cutting the planks of wood with the saw. She had open-toed sandals on, and that's not safe.

    I LOVED Jinger's beautiful piano playing in the music store, oh my, could listen to that all day!

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  11. How is it that Lauren is Salvadoran? Her parents don't look it to me. Was she adopted?

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    1. Latinos can be white too! We’re not all brown, we are descendants of Europeans. I don’t get why Americans have such trouble with this since you are descendants from a Europeans as well.

      The last name doesn’t have to be Hispanic either for a person to be Latino btw. Latin America has had lots of inmigrant over the years and last names come from all over.

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    2. I have not seen anything indicating she was adopted, that is a possibility. It could also just be through genealogy. “Looks” don’t always tell a persons ethnicity or genealogical background.

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    3. Anon at 330PM: I hear you, but I don't think it's ALL "Americans" who think "Latino" or "Hispanic" people are all dark haired and brown skinned. Maybe most, but not all. To paint all "Americans" with the same brush isn't very fair to them either.

      And it's ironic that you yourself are using "American" in a way limited to "people living in the US". Many in Central and South American ALSO identify as "American" and resent how "America" has come to mean not only "North America" but the "United States of America".

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    4. She may be half Salvadoran or quarter, we don’t know. Hermiddle name Milagro means miracle. Beautiful girl and quite intelligent sounding. I like her. Great addition to the family.

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    5. I have a blonde headed green eyed friend who is half hispanic. Her mother os white and her father os hispanic.

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    6. Her mom looks a little like a Latina, she probably dyes her hair light. Her dad is white American (that's why probably her sister Lydia is so blond).

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  12. Nice renovations! What can Jana not do? She is simply amazing!

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  13. Great episodes, I really enjoyed watching

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  14. I loved the show last night. It was well put together .The two hours was awesome . And seeing the kids was great also. Love watching them. Kendra and Joe home is lovely. All the best to the Duggar couple's.

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  15. I can't believe the contents of the Duggar fridge are not date marked. I label everything, both in the pantry and in the fridge, with the date it expires or the date it was cooked. You have to, especially when you have more than one person living in the house, or you'll never remember which cans to use first, or when those leftovers went in the fridge, and someone could get sick.

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    1. I had a hard time with the fact that Josiah used leftovers that had been on other people’s plates and touched by the saliva from their forks. Yuck! Don’t get me wrong, I bring home food that I am unable to finish in the restaurant, but I’m the only one who eats it. Eating leftovers that hadn’t been served on individual plates is another story.

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    2. You are a little OCD about the refrigerator! I seriously don't know anyone but my elderly parents who obsess about the expire dare is their frig. You need to "chill".

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    3. Interesting. I don't date mark anything (and there are seven of us). I try to keep older things near the front of the fridge, and newer things near the back. I also keep an eye on leftovers to try to use them up within a few days.

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    4. ?????? Not that difficult to manage a family frig.

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    5. People need to stop criticizing. Nobody is perfect. Everyone has had expired food in the fridge before.

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    6. You might have expired food, but as long as the date is marked, nobody would be using it. If you'd pull it out, you'd toss it. You could tell that Josiah had no clue about how old any of that food was, when it was put in there, or when those sour cream (?) cartons were first opened. Scary. Food poisoning is no laughing matter and can happen to anyone who's not careful!

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    7. I don't think it's OCD. With small kids and pregnant women that are around is food poisoning not fun!

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    8. 19K & Counting showed how the pantry was stocked similar to a grocery store due to JB’s experience as a stock boy. So, the pantry is probably stocked with older goods first. With still a bunch of kids at home grabbing thinks or sticking things in the fridge; items just naturally become mixed up as far as newer to older foods go. Yes, it’s important to date perishables as you open/use them; but again, keeping track with that many hands is challenging! However, using random leftovers from a restaurant into a meal you’re preparing for someone else is disgusting!

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    9. Everyone is different as to how they manage their fridge. I remember exactly when leftovers went in the fridge no need to label because I have a great memory as my husband tells me. Here in U.K. all fridge items have a best before date but anyway, nothing lasts more than a day or two when opened with teenagers around. Every few days I check the fridge, bin anything (rarely) or use before the date expires i.e. raw Chicken

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    10. We always put the dates on our leftovers. If in Ziploc bags, we write the date on the bag with a Sharpie. If in a dish or other container, we tape a piece of paper to the top with the date it was put in there. It takes 2 seconds to do and it's pretty important. My entire household has been instructed to use this system and they do, out of good habit.

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    11. It's not ocd to have health concerns, as someone else said, especially with expectant mothers & small children; food poisoning can be serious. With multiple cooks in a kitchen, it would be a good idea to have items labeled. His meal was less than impressive; Josiah could've asked for sisterly assistance! ❤

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  16. No one seemed to be that surprised when Kendra announced that she was pregnant. There wasn't much of a reaction.

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    1. I noticed that but I really think everyone thought it was just decorated for the furure. After they saw the sign Jana made, you can hear Michelle say, "You're pregnant!?"

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    2. I think a lot of the times these scenes are staged for the show.

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    3. I'm pretty sure the Kendra "baby reveal" storyline was staged. Kendra is so close to her mother that I seriously doubt she wouldn't have told her first, perhaps even before she told Joe.

      Now, I DO believe that Jinger and Jeremy told Jessa and Ben first, as Jinger and Jessa are best friends, and the Seewalds were the ones who introduced them to each other.

      But I don't get any sense that Kendra is particularly close to Jessa and Jana, and the idea that they just happened to be told first, and just happened to both be into interior decorating, and there just happened to be a small room perfectly sized for a nursery that hadn't been finished yet...all that seems a tad TOO convenient a coincidence, to be true.

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    4. @12:02—absolutely agree with your observations!

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  17. Kudos to Jana for not settling on just anybody. I am a lot older than she is and I am still looking for the right one!!!!

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    1. Perhaps this is one of the scenes they recreated for the cameras....the real reveal was private?

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  18. At 33 weeks Joy finally hauls herself to the midwife for a check to see if she has gestational diabetes? A little late, I think! Don't they usually test about two months prior to 33 weeks? It doesn't look like she is giving herself proper prenatal care. As a result, she ends up with an emergency c section. That's kind of sad and also sends the wrong message to young mothers. An example of what not to do. I think the viewers are getting tired of watching the Duggar girls make poor decisions regarding pregnancy and childbirth.

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    1. The glucose test isn’t 1 little finger prick so I assumed she had done the full blood glucose test earlier and this was done to see if her levels were still high. There are multiple factors that lead to emergency c section and it’s ridiculous to make young mothers think “bad decisions” on their part will lead to that outcome. I had an emergency c section and trust me...noting could have prevented it. I also don’t sit around feeling upset and ashamed about it.

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    2. Finger stick testing is usually done at every visit after 20 weeks. If indicated they would do more complete testing to diagnose gestational diabetes. I’m sure this was not her first visit. Why so negative? I think you are doing some assuming and we all know what that means.

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    3. In the episode it said she wa 30 weeks when they were testing her.

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    4. She did it at 30 weeks and it was the midwife who decided to do the test that week. She already had a diet sheet so they were already doing something about it.

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    5. Jill and Joy are the only ones who have made poor decisions, what happened with Spurgeons birth wouldn’t still have happened in a hospital.

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    6. Would, not wouldn’t still have happened in a hospital

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    7. She was probably relying on a midwife to guide her through when different things should happen, especially since it was her first baby. After this she may decide to go in a different direction for prenatal care.

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    8. If you can't say anything nice then don't reply

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    9. I may not recall correctly, but I think I did my glucose test around 25-26 weeks. Yes, 33 weeks is quite late!

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    10. I am pregnant with baby number 6. I went to a nurse visit and she told me they like to do the gestational diabetes test as soon as possible. And even though I was only 13 wks, they wanted to test then. I've never had it so early testing isn't because of that.

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  19. Jeremy's parents reaction to the news that they are going to be Grandparents, is so sweet, you can feel the love and excitement. Jinger is so talented, she plays the piano so beautifully, could listen all day, maybe an album should be considered. Joe and Kendra have an amazing house, they did a fantastic job, Joe is so hard working, they are a lovely couple. I did not know Lauren had health issues, her and Josiah have such an awkwardness between them, I hope their marriage lasts. I feel scared for Joy, she is not very aware of things, hopefully she has time to mature before having another baby. Jana is so multi talented, everything she is involved in turns out amazing.

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    1. Jinger got an actual front hug and a hair tuck from Jeremy's mom. I've never seen Michelle do either to any of her kids. I wish Jeremy's grandma could have been there for the news. She would probably have gone into orbit. Hope she's still OK.

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  20. I liked the show. I thought it was a great variety. I can't wait to see the coming episodes and future seasons. Natasha B.

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  21. The parents of Kendra did not seem please but in shock

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    1. I think they already knew but had to pretend for the cameras that they were just finding out, so it didn’t seem as authentic.

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  22. I really don't enjoy negative comments and don't mean to "judge", but I did observe that a lot of Lauren's comments to and about Josiah were less than loving and respectful.

    All humans are different, all marriages, all relationships. I'm just more accustomed to dry wit and sarcasm. When my husband and I play and joke it's obviously in good humor and isn't to belittle the other.

    I felt like she was pretty nasty about the guac for instance (though the disrespect and mocking was present throughout the episodes). That could have made Josiah feel stupid, inadequate and hurt. If they are this way together and it suits them, then fabulous! Personally it did not appear to be that she wanted to build him up and honor him. If she didn't like it, she didn't have to eat it. She also didn't have to make fun and giggle with the children at Josiah's expense. He can improve his cooking skills, but that's not likely if he's mocked and demeaned.

    I'm not meaning to hate on Lauren. My point is that one must be mindful of how small comments can be interpreted by others and that some conversations, tips, grievances and ALL arguments should be aired privately between husband and wife and kept private (spousal abuse aside).

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    1. Then it's a good thing she just vowed to be his biggest cheerleader. Maybe that's why she put it in her vows, because she realized she wasn't being that during the courtship. He didn't vow to be hers, though.

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    2. Josiah served Lauren rancid guacamole. He didn't know who made it or how long it had been in the refridgerator. He asked 9-year old Jordyn how he could tell if it was ok to serve. Good on Lauren for having the self-confidence to give her opinion and hold her own. I would rather have her speak her mind than falsely "keep sweet" in that moment. Building someone up should come from a sincere place or it doesn't truly honor the other person.

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    3. I found her reactions to be normal for anyone tasting/smelling something that is spoiled. Kind of refreshing not to have that” look at your man with worship” at all times.

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    4. Give Lauren a chance she wasn't even married at this point and new to the pressures of filming and a wedding looming. We are all a work in progress becoming more loving and kind, I'm sure she will mature and honour him.

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    5. First of all Lauren was NOT married to Josiah at the time the episode was filmed so judging her actions as if she was, is unfair. But even if she was, I don't think that a wife is not allowed to say ANYTHING negative to her husband. If your husband served you spoiled food in public, you'd just smile and say "no thanks" and not mention it was spoiled? Would you let your guests eat the spoiled food, too, just to avoid being negative to your husband in public?

      I think too many kids get spoiled with this "build them up, don't say anything that could hurt their wittle feelings" attitude and I don't see why treating grown men like little kids is any better.

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    6. TBH I think it was one of the grandkids' babyfood. "Rancid" (I'm sure you know rancid means rotten here) guac isn't green...

      I'm the OP.

      I'm not saying she has to "put up or shut up", but she is perfectly capable of displaying class, dignity, tact and grace. There is a time and place for an open conversations.

      And you know she's perfectly capable of "worship stare" as well. She's no feminist champion because she was rude in front of the world. He had a REALLY bad idea, but shaming him is not a positive response likely to produce positive change. Building your spouse up is your job as their person. It's part and parcel. 50-50 effort is a lie. You both strive for 100% all of the time and try to be a blessing to your person.

      Now... I do not think they don't know this and honestly I know there is a lot of editing that goes on and the producers generate storylines and this definitely felt generated.

      It was a really bad plan, bad idea. She could have been more tactful is my point.

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    7. I would have gave him the same look. He could gave tried harder.

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    8. you're making much ado about nothing, she was just teasing him in a playful way, if that was rude or hurtful than maybe we were watching different people.

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  23. Do any of the Duggars attend Big Sandy anymore???

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  24. The Duggars are wonderful christians and perfect examples of what it means to be a Christ follower.

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    1. Perfect examples? Is any Christian a “perfect” example???

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    2. Perfect examples? No one is perfect and neither is their Christian witness. Please don’t elevate them to Christ’s level.

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    3. I am a Sunday school teacher for elementary school children. So Anon 1:57 I disagree. Christians are all examples of Christ. Just because I teach Sunday school and do not have my own tv show does not make me any less of a Christian.

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  25. Have Joy and Austin sold their home now, as Austin said in the show that they'd be putting it up for sale two months after baby's birth.

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    1. Hopefully he got over himself and realized that wouldn’t be in the best interest of his wife and child

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    2. I think flipping houses is his source of income for his family

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    3. We'll find out in future episodes! ��

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    4. I wonder if they are back in the motor home while their newbhomebisbeing built

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    5. The RV with the shower that didn't work? If so, I'm wondering if it's parked beside the main Duggar house and the kids have boomeranged.

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