In a very interesting podcast episode, Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo discus how they decide what movies, TV shows, songs, and other media influences to engage with. They also talk specifically about Taylor Swift and Disney.
why are they having a discussion on what they let or not let their children watch on tv on microphones to each other i know its known as a podcast but why do people listen to it
I guess Shakespeare is out too because there's witchcraft. And Dickens - forget the seasonal "A Christmas Carol" and the lesson it tries to teach, because it's filled with ghosts. Not to mention the Bible, and all the evil things that book tells you about. I had never heard of some of those things until they were presented in Sunday School. Glad you brought up this subject, Jinger & Jeremy, and warned us all!
Well, if it's normalizing sin or making it into entertainment then that's not ok. If it's describing a historical fact as a cautionary example like in the Bible, that's different.
I fully agree with them. No bad influences for children. My parents exposed me to people having spirits come upon them, and someone rising from the dead. It was called church...
As a child, it was certain Bible stories that terrified me more than anything I saw in cartoons, TV or movies.... a supposedly loving god drowning nearly every person on the planet in a global flood; Sodom and Gomorrah; the Amalekites genocide; Lots wife turned to a pillar of salt; the plagues of Egypt and killing the firstborn; the Levite's concubine; Jonah and the whale; the Crucifiction story. And what's disturbing me now more than anything is what's happening with this chaotic, cruel, and corrupt adminstration that is intent on destroying our democracy, rule of law, economy, national security and standing in the free world. Sounds "demonic" to me.
When her parents tried that, it didn't work. Look at how "curious" one of those kids became when he learned something was off limits or bad to watch. Not surprised. You tell kids that something's not allowed, and that makes them want it all the more, to find out what the fuss is about. Jinger's naive if she thinks limiting something is going to make her kids never think about it, want to see it, or want to hear it for themselves anyway, probably sneaking to do it. She's also going to have to make sure that every kid her kids ever come in contact with is similarly restricted, which is impossible to do. There's going to be a Disney movie or a Taylor Swift song at a sleepover or a birthday party sometime, and then the angst will kick in for her kids - do I go along, or do I make a scene that gets me uninvited next time and called weird? Better to watch or listen to this stuff together and have a talk about what's real vs. what's fantasy, what values are vs. what's not good to emulate, and how to quietly and politely handle any situation you find yourself in. Teach them to think, not sneak or feel guilty.
She went to the Eras movie. She was out of her element and embarrassed and said she was glad Jeremy wasn't there because of some of the scenes. Obviously Jinger hasn't shed the childhood angst that her parents so perfectly created. Free indeed?
@8:53 What I read made it sound like Jinger was embarrassed by the dances and the songs, and was glad Jeremy wasn't there to either see her uncomfortable or see all that gyrating and hear all the words himself. Kind of like the way Joy had to cover the TV in front of the little boys while they were at the rental house and Josie was in the NICU.
It seems ironic, if not hypocritical, to me that parents would go out of their way to screen out any media influences that have to do with magic or the supernatural. Yet, they expect their kids to believe in a supernatural god, demons, angels, a devil, and stories about the first man made from dirt, the first woman made from dirt man's rib, a virgin birth, a man walking on water and that same man being killed and then brought back to life.
My friend was telling me how she was working to get certain books removed from the school library when I pointed out that the Bible would have to go too since it told about the very material she was objecting to. That caused her pause.
@5:54 There are definitely groups out there doing this. Moms For Liberty is one. They're speaking at school board meetings, making lots of noise about those books. The librarians don't like it! They're also making the librarians catalog every book (for parents to know) and the teachers have to report every book on any shelves in their own classrooms. It's taking tons of time away from the educators' usual duties. You're really getting into murky territory when you try to ban books.
I've seen this in action. Parents will interrupt school board meetings and demand that everyone do things their way, but they won't quit their jobs, stay home, and homeschool. They just like making a public fuss and telling the school system and trained educators what they're doing "wrong."
They need to loosen the reins. The more you try to control your kids the more they rebel. Which is fine, because you can't expect your kids to be exact clones of you. They have their own personalities, their own lives, and should be allowed to develop their own preferences. Of course I don't mean encouraging your kids do anything physically dangerous or illegal. But making a big public deal out of which imaginary princesses they can and can't see? Ridiculous.
Would like to know what other Duggar kids censor for their children. and would rather know what you all censor for your children. I think some of todays videos games are too violent for 10 year olds.
The only thing we censored (if you call it that) were R and X things, until the kids were old enough to understand (high school-ish). But we didn't really censor them, we just didn't have them in the house (because we didn't care to) or didn't watch the R's and near-R's on TV until the kids were in bed. But at no point did we stop anything Disney, stop any video games the kids were interested in (they mostly liked fantasy or problem-solving games anyway), nor did we filter the Internet, which was still new. We certainly didn't take to the airways trying to show what wonderful and careful parents we were or denouncing someone else's artistic work. (I guess the Vuolo kids aren't going to be allowed to look at Renaissance art either for that matter.) The biggest challenge we had, believe it or not, was the evening news. All sorts of real-life horrors were shown and discussed there! Still are. But we didn't censor news. You can't, unless you expect your kids to live under a rock and not be members of society.
Someone has been pontificating very lengthy posts/lectures on this site! I wonder if anyone is reading all of that. I don't mind the gist of what they are saying, but perhaps we don't need so much input from one person?
After scrolling past several long comments, I just read this one 11:59 am. I think my attention span is getting shorter, so if commenters keep it short I read it.
11:59. It’s ok. Kids believe in Santa because their parents say it’s true. And kids believe all that stuff in the bible for the same reason. But many many kids outgrow all of that when they get old enough to figure out none of it’s true. The number of people who believe all that nonsense has been declining for decades.
Apparently Jeremy got Jinger a new upgraded wedding ring for Christmas. I wonder if his parents need to have a talk with him about who and what i$ influencing him?
6:21. Jeremy is a grown man. Like really grown 35+ grown. He and Jinger live in a million dollar LA home. Finances are not a problem and many women get new wedding sets. Chill.
6:21. My husband has upgraded my rings a few times within our marriage. Never once did we need a “talking to” from our parents. We are adults for goodness sake! We don’t tell them how to spend their money nor do they have any right to tells us how to spend ours.
4:18 That may be true, but you're forgetting how much Jeremy loves having and showing pretty things, which isn't exactly a Biblical principal or in line with most pastors except maybe the TV ones.
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why are they having a discussion on what they let or not let their children watch on tv on microphones
ReplyDeleteto each other i know its known as a podcast but why do people listen to it
I guess Shakespeare is out too because there's witchcraft. And Dickens - forget the seasonal "A Christmas Carol" and the lesson it tries to teach, because it's filled with ghosts. Not to mention the Bible, and all the evil things that book tells you about. I had never heard of some of those things until they were presented in Sunday School. Glad you brought up this subject, Jinger & Jeremy, and warned us all!
ReplyDeleteWell, if it's normalizing sin or making it into entertainment then that's not ok. If it's describing a historical fact as a cautionary example like in the Bible, that's different.
DeleteI fully agree with them. No bad influences for children. My parents exposed me to people having spirits come upon them, and someone rising from the dead. It was called church...
ReplyDeleteAs a child, it was certain Bible stories that terrified me more than anything I saw in cartoons, TV or movies.... a supposedly loving god drowning nearly every person on the planet in a global flood; Sodom and Gomorrah; the Amalekites genocide; Lots wife turned to a pillar of salt; the plagues of Egypt and killing the firstborn; the Levite's concubine; Jonah and the whale; the Crucifiction story. And what's disturbing me now more than anything is what's happening with this chaotic, cruel, and corrupt adminstration that is intent on destroying our democracy, rule of law, economy, national security and standing in the free world. Sounds "demonic" to me.
ReplyDeleteWhen her parents tried that, it didn't work. Look at how "curious" one of those kids became when he learned something was off limits or bad to watch. Not surprised. You tell kids that something's not allowed, and that makes them want it all the more, to find out what the fuss is about. Jinger's naive if she thinks limiting something is going to make her kids never think about it, want to see it, or want to hear it for themselves anyway, probably sneaking to do it. She's also going to have to make sure that every kid her kids ever come in contact with is similarly restricted, which is impossible to do. There's going to be a Disney movie or a Taylor Swift song at a sleepover or a birthday party sometime, and then the angst will kick in for her kids - do I go along, or do I make a scene that gets me uninvited next time and called weird? Better to watch or listen to this stuff together and have a talk about what's real vs. what's fantasy, what values are vs. what's not good to emulate, and how to quietly and politely handle any situation you find yourself in. Teach them to think, not sneak or feel guilty.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly, 8:49 AM. Thank you.
DeleteDidn't Jinger go to a Taylor Swift concert?
ReplyDeleteShe went to the Eras movie. She was out of her element and embarrassed and said she was glad Jeremy wasn't there because of some of the scenes. Obviously Jinger hasn't shed the childhood angst that her parents so perfectly created. Free indeed?
Deleteyes but shes didnt know who she was or any of her songs according to her
DeleteNo she didn’t lol
DeleteJinger is an adult! Why should she be worried about what Jeremy thinks about her watching the Taylor Swift movie?
Delete@8:53 What I read made it sound like Jinger was embarrassed by the dances and the songs, and was glad Jeremy wasn't there to either see her uncomfortable or see all that gyrating and hear all the words himself. Kind of like the way Joy had to cover the TV in front of the little boys while they were at the rental house and Josie was in the NICU.
DeleteIt seems ironic, if not hypocritical, to me that parents would go out of their way to screen out any media influences that have to do with magic or the supernatural. Yet, they expect their kids to believe in a supernatural god, demons, angels, a devil, and stories about the first man made from dirt, the first woman made from dirt man's rib, a virgin birth, a man walking on water and that same man being killed and then brought back to life.
ReplyDeleteMy friend was telling me how she was working to get certain books removed from the school library when I pointed out that the Bible would have to go too since it told about the very material she was objecting to. That caused her pause.
ReplyDeleteWhy was your friend trying to get books banned?!
Delete@5:54 There are definitely groups out there doing this. Moms For Liberty is one. They're speaking at school board meetings, making lots of noise about those books. The librarians don't like it! They're also making the librarians catalog every book (for parents to know) and the teachers have to report every book on any shelves in their own classrooms. It's taking tons of time away from the educators' usual duties. You're really getting into murky territory when you try to ban books.
DeleteI've seen this in action. Parents will interrupt school board meetings and demand that everyone do things their way, but they won't quit their jobs, stay home, and homeschool. They just like making a public fuss and telling the school system and trained educators what they're doing "wrong."
DeleteThey need to loosen the reins. The more you try to control your kids the more they rebel. Which is fine, because you can't expect your kids to be exact clones of you. They have their own personalities, their own lives, and should be allowed to develop their own preferences. Of course I don't mean encouraging your kids do anything physically dangerous or illegal. But making a big public deal out of which imaginary princesses they can and can't see? Ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteWould like to know what other Duggar kids censor for their children. and would rather know what you all censor for your children. I think some of todays videos games are too violent for 10 year olds.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing we censored (if you call it that) were R and X things, until the kids were old enough to understand (high school-ish). But we didn't really censor them, we just didn't have them in the house (because we didn't care to) or didn't watch the R's and near-R's on TV until the kids were in bed. But at no point did we stop anything Disney, stop any video games the kids were interested in (they mostly liked fantasy or problem-solving games anyway), nor did we filter the Internet, which was still new. We certainly didn't take to the airways trying to show what wonderful and careful parents we were or denouncing someone else's artistic work. (I guess the Vuolo kids aren't going to be allowed to look at Renaissance art either for that matter.) The biggest challenge we had, believe it or not, was the evening news. All sorts of real-life horrors were shown and discussed there! Still are. But we didn't censor news. You can't, unless you expect your kids to live under a rock and not be members of society.
Delete12/23 @ 10:56pm, I agree 100%!!
ReplyDeleteI didn't listen to her podcast but I am wishing all the Duggar families a blessed and merry Christmas.
ReplyDeleteSomeone has been pontificating very lengthy posts/lectures on this site! I wonder if anyone is reading all of that. I don't mind the gist of what they are saying, but perhaps we don't need so much input from one person?
ReplyDeleteAfter scrolling past several long comments, I just read this one 11:59 am. I think my attention span is getting shorter, so if commenters keep it short I read it.
DeleteIf you don't like lengthy posts, don't read them. Problem solved.
Delete11:59. It’s ok. Kids believe in Santa because their parents say it’s true. And kids believe all that stuff in the bible for the same reason. But many many kids outgrow all of that when they get old enough to figure out none of it’s true. The number of people who believe all that nonsense has been declining for decades.
DeleteApparently Jeremy got Jinger a new upgraded wedding ring for Christmas. I wonder if his parents need to have a talk with him about who and what i$ influencing him?
ReplyDelete6:21. Jeremy is a grown man. Like really grown 35+ grown. He and Jinger live in a million dollar LA home. Finances are not a problem and many women get new wedding sets. Chill.
Delete6:21. My husband has upgraded my rings a few times within our marriage. Never once did we need a “talking to” from our parents. We are adults for goodness sake! We don’t tell them how to spend their money nor do they have any right to tells us how to spend ours.
DeleteFramed in the reference of how Jeremy always had to have the latest greatest sneakers pens watches clothes houses I totally get the point.
Delete4:18 That may be true, but you're forgetting how much Jeremy loves having and showing pretty things, which isn't exactly a Biblical principal or in line with most pastors except maybe the TV ones.
Delete1:34 I agree.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone have a baby over the Christmas holiday?
ReplyDeleteMary?
Delete10:43 Good comment. Hilarious!
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