tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post974355988010310485..comments2024-03-28T14:44:17.463-05:00Comments on Duggar Family Blog: Duggar Updates | Duggar Pictures | Jim Bob and Michelle | Counting On | 19 Kids: Forsyths on Home BirthLily and Elliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00941253435533935093noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-56958022362894444922018-11-24T03:42:10.248-06:002018-11-24T03:42:10.248-06:00I labored at home 24 hourz before going to the hos...I labored at home 24 hourz before going to the hospital. Even if you are doing a hospital birth they usually dont want you to come in until your contractions are a certain space apart and last for a certain amount of time. First babies often take longer to come. Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08859765816642226484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-1044296919104020862018-08-29T14:24:46.169-05:002018-08-29T14:24:46.169-05:00Joy, I feel just like you do with pregnancy. It...Joy, I feel just like you do with pregnancy. It's encouraging to watch you and Austin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-17712996978254686632018-08-29T14:23:43.781-05:002018-08-29T14:23:43.781-05:00I don't think they would have known how big he...I don't think they would have known how big he was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-9725059118613548542018-08-13T12:05:57.116-05:002018-08-13T12:05:57.116-05:00It is just so touching to see how many people in t...It is just so touching to see how many people in the comments know so much better than the duggars. The amount of professionals here who know exactly what they did wrong and how they should’ve done it differently is just astounding!<br />In my country we have a saying: “de beste stuurlui staan aan wal” which translates to “the best skippers are ashore”. Wrap your heads around that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-85774215859072770602018-08-11T09:55:19.712-05:002018-08-11T09:55:19.712-05:00Anon at 1012PM: Jana gave the impression a C-secti...Anon at 1012PM: Jana gave the impression a C-section was imminent, but that could have just been her take on it, I guess. It was interesting how the epidural helped Jinger to dilate. Most people claim epidurals slow labor down and that's one reason some mothers avoid them.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm sure die-hard home birth advocates would claim the study you cite is biased and must be funded by the maker of Pitocin or something. Their claim is that inducing and epidurals make C-sections MORE likely and that's what the greedy "birth industry" wants to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-86690637092831460032018-08-09T08:40:45.572-05:002018-08-09T08:40:45.572-05:00Anon @ 12:33 You are correct that sometimes babies...Anon @ 12:33 You are correct that sometimes babies can flip during labor, however this usually happens with smaller babies. Once a babies head is engaged it usually stays that way, Gideon at 10+lbs was too big to 'flip', and this could also possibly be the reason he didn't engage in the first place, he didn't have the room to turn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-58384068162329308822018-08-08T22:49:27.025-05:002018-08-08T22:49:27.025-05:0012:35, even if you were someone who planned to hav...12:35, even if you were someone who planned to have a home birth of your baby was born prematurely that wouldn’t have happened, and with a premature birth there was a raised likelyhood that something would have gone wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-84202329324358100822018-08-08T22:47:30.523-05:002018-08-08T22:47:30.523-05:002:40, wrong, Israel was also breech.2:40, wrong, Israel was also breech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-4666758685161220122018-08-08T22:12:07.491-05:002018-08-08T22:12:07.491-05:00Jinger didn't almost have a c-section. It was ...Jinger didn't almost have a c-section. It was an option they talked about if labor didn't progress. The epidural relaxed her body and allowed her to fully dilate. <br />A study just came out that showed inducing labor for at-term, healthy women actually resulted in better outcomes than those who went into labor naturally. They ended up being 3% less likely to have to have a c-section than those who were not induced. Jinger's doctor and midwife were up-to-date on their research and implemented a birth plan that took Jinger's wants and concerns into consideration. Medical interventions obviously helped Jinger avoid c-section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-88431949868185923132018-08-08T21:50:43.683-05:002018-08-08T21:50:43.683-05:00This is pure speculation but based on the reaction...This is pure speculation but based on the reactions and hushed mouths after Samuel's birth, I think she had to have a hysterictamy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-15366393069393793202018-08-08T21:40:27.102-05:002018-08-08T21:40:27.102-05:0010:07 AM - You're right; I apologize and take ...10:07 AM - You're right; I apologize and take it back. After I posted that, I looked it over and realized it was an overgeneralization to say that laboring at home is always a good idea. It's *usually* a good idea to labor at home first even when the plan is to finish at the hospital or birth center. Being 30 minutes from the hospital isn't a big deal and doesn't change that. But you're right, there are many exceptions, such as the ones you list, when it would not be medically advisable to labor at home first.Julia K.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-19385639805439146792018-08-08T18:26:54.460-05:002018-08-08T18:26:54.460-05:00Agreed!Agreed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-74824792438665668122018-08-08T10:07:12.029-05:002018-08-08T10:07:12.029-05:00Julie K: I think it's going too far to say tha...Julie K: I think it's going too far to say that laboring at home is "ALWAYS" a good idea. If you're right, then Jinger's choice to be induced into labor at the hospital was NOT a good idea. <br /><br />And how long do you think mothers should be in labor at home before going to the hospital? What if the mother has a high risk condition such as placenta previa (as Erin Bates did), or goes into labor prematurely, or comes down with a fever? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-12398835938285016742018-08-08T09:33:56.308-05:002018-08-08T09:33:56.308-05:00Poor Joy, had to have a c-section, which probably ...Poor Joy, had to have a c-section, which probably means they won't get to have as many children as they want. Poor Jill had to have one both times. I have a feeling Jill can't have any more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-3808764962923189712018-08-08T08:49:11.943-05:002018-08-08T08:49:11.943-05:00AgreeAgreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-70771723897376412102018-08-08T04:14:55.194-05:002018-08-08T04:14:55.194-05:00nice to know Austin was an EMTnice to know Austin was an EMTSuznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-82958090732867393742018-08-07T22:39:33.633-05:002018-08-07T22:39:33.633-05:00AMEN AMEN!!AMEN AMEN!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-45439217026118511012018-08-07T20:49:02.521-05:002018-08-07T20:49:02.521-05:00Well at least the midwife did check Joy's bloo...Well at least the midwife did check Joy's blood sugar, something that I recall some posters here doubted was ever done. Though knowing it was a "little high" even if she didn't meet criteria for an official "gestational diabetes" diagnosis, you'd think she'd realize earlier that she wasn't a good home birth candidate.<br /><br />While most people who prefer home birth realize it is only safe for low risk births and readily agree to a hospital back up plan, some people want a home birth as part of a more wide-reaching "natural medicine" ideology, mistrust of "standard medical care" in general, and consider it a "failure" to go the hospital, and certainly to have a C-section, and so wait as long as they can. <br /><br />Indeed while so far comments here have been overall positive regarding Jinger's birth plan, I know some people elsewhere were appalled that Jinger was induced and almost had a C-section "when it wasn't medically necessary" and are pointing to her care as a reason why women should NOT go to the hospital for birth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-75954022466624449112018-08-07T20:38:00.505-05:002018-08-07T20:38:00.505-05:00Actually I DO think the Vuolos would have gone eve...Actually I DO think the Vuolos would have gone even if TLC didn't film the event, considering the charity is run by Jeremy's own mother. But since they did, why not provide publicity for a good cause? <br /><br />You can take that cynical POV on pretty much all celebrities who go to charity events, that they're just out for a photo op to improve their own public image (and hence bottom line). In the end only God knows their hearts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-69632650609047367982018-08-07T16:33:05.130-05:002018-08-07T16:33:05.130-05:00I like to see “star” or famous/semi famous people ...I like to see “star” or famous/semi famous people use their notoriety to draw attention to worthy causes. Yes, I think they would have done this event even if Counting On was not filming....it is his mothers charity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681272853557636026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-27687667595335493512018-08-07T14:41:14.935-05:002018-08-07T14:41:14.935-05:00Yes, they would have because it is Jeremy's mo...Yes, they would have because it is Jeremy's mother who runs the nonprofit. The gala was important to his mother and they support the organization's mission. Jinger and Jeremy were involved before they showcased it on the show. Of course they used the show to promote it on purpose, they want people to know about it and support it. It's work that actually benefits underserved children. The Vuolos get no financial gain from it. We need to show the world what others are doing to help the most vulnerable to give such organizations support and hopefully others to spread such efforts to other communities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-81514634467400234302018-08-07T14:31:24.497-05:002018-08-07T14:31:24.497-05:00Agreed. The Duggar girls have had some very diffic...Agreed. The Duggar girls have had some very difficult births, but this is entirely due to the size and position of the babies, not their choice of birthing location. The outcomes wouldn't have been any better if they had planned hospital births rather than home births.Julia K.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-83931434672915477702018-08-07T14:28:27.458-05:002018-08-07T14:28:27.458-05:00Midwives are medical professionals.
There was no ...Midwives are medical professionals.<br /><br />There was no emergency or hurry. The baby was not in distress, he just wasn't going to be able to be born vaginally because he became breech.<br /><br />Going to the hospital was the right call. But laboring at home first is always a good idea whether a hospital birth is planned or not.Julia K.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-84195947144152354372018-08-07T13:20:39.151-05:002018-08-07T13:20:39.151-05:00Yes, there are great midwives out there who are pr...Yes, there are great midwives out there who are professional and properly trained and educated. Too bad the Duggar daughters (except Jinger) haven't used any of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-477884936906005752018-08-07T13:02:48.772-05:002018-08-07T13:02:48.772-05:00Didn't you hear her say SHE wanted a homebirth...Didn't you hear her say SHE wanted a homebirth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com