tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post5820943737795383474..comments2024-03-28T18:56:31.461-05:00Comments on Duggar Family Blog: Duggar Updates | Duggar Pictures | Jim Bob and Michelle | Counting On | 19 Kids: Watch Gideon's Birth on TLCLily and Elliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00941253435533935093noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-31838079493877948132018-03-25T15:05:12.397-05:002018-03-25T15:05:12.397-05:00I'm sure that for every "I almost died in...I'm sure that for every "I almost died in a hospital" birth story there is, there's a matching "I almost died at home." Circumstances differ. But what almost never differs is the amount of trained personnel and medical equipment on hand in a private house versus in a hospital. When seconds matter between life and death and you need those things, the hospital wins. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-68192478529540210442018-03-23T20:30:54.919-05:002018-03-23T20:30:54.919-05:00I personally know of someone who became paralyzed ...I personally know of someone who became paralyzed on account of an epidural. It was with her firstborn ta boot. Very traumatic, and now has to live in a wheelchair... I also had a faulty epidural with my first. Wasn’t anywhere close to a pain free birth, and not just that I had a full 6 months of pain and/or oozing on the site. And after 14 yrs finally no longer seem to be having flair ups in the site. But that certainly was the first and last epidural for me!!! Its very disconcerting!!!! I had 3 more after with only laughing gas for the next one and nothing for the last two. It went just fine. Oh and I had all my babies at a hospital but for the last 2 the doctor didn’t make it on time! And for my 3rd boy 9lbs, 5oz, there was only a very incompetent nurse assisting my husband! Yes, you heard that right!! My husband only had EMR training and when my son’s shoulder got stuck he told the nurse what to do!!! She was totally freaking with a much higher education in childbirth than my hubby, but my hubby knew a whole lot more what to do, and much more calm!! So no, a higher education definitely doesn’t say everything!!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-55479975704395189612018-03-23T20:18:44.851-05:002018-03-23T20:18:44.851-05:002:31, but 10:23's acquaintance still had an em...2:31, but 10:23's acquaintance still had an emergency C-section, JUST as Joy did. So, overall, what's the difference except for four hours less of a labour, and the transportation to the hospital. Either way is just fine. This was Joy and Austin's choice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-12351551755140140062018-03-23T20:14:37.760-05:002018-03-23T20:14:37.760-05:00I’m not saying I think a home birth/natural birth ...I’m not saying I think a home birth/natural birth is better, but I do know someone who was partially paralyzed from an epidural. It happens. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-34081264457430465402018-03-23T11:32:29.656-05:002018-03-23T11:32:29.656-05:00Yikes. That was painful to watch. I'd have a...Yikes. That was painful to watch. I'd have asked for pain meds. long before that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-52748395279391847092018-03-23T10:07:17.194-05:002018-03-23T10:07:17.194-05:00I can’t even imagine what an ambulance trip would ...I can’t even imagine what an ambulance trip would cost. Seems like being in the hospital to begin with would save them a lot of money. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-76714193698627230672018-03-23T09:36:09.478-05:002018-03-23T09:36:09.478-05:00That wasn’t a put down. The poster was simply givi...That wasn’t a put down. The poster was simply giving an explanation of why some women choose to avoid epidurals and other interventions, something many commenters here seem to be wondering. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-31190146990258909502018-03-23T05:46:53.582-05:002018-03-23T05:46:53.582-05:00They likely drove themselves. They likely drove themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-84906351978534969172018-03-23T03:32:42.588-05:002018-03-23T03:32:42.588-05:00Women die every day while having babies in hospita...Women die every day while having babies in hospitals. Humans don't control death, sillies! Doctors lose patients every single day. I had mine with few meds, def no epidural, and all births were joyous, except I had delayed joy when I almost died from a doctor's mistake with my second son. I know one thing-any way a woman wants to have her kid is fine by me. I think the world could criticize a new mother a lot less, and stop seeing her as some sort of "victim". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-69530856871766627472018-03-22T20:37:25.832-05:002018-03-22T20:37:25.832-05:00JB did not badger her about anything. It was a sw...JB did not badger her about anything. It was a sweet thought for his daughter to have an easy delivery not a c-section. There are more complications with surgery. I agree that the home births seem less than desirable considering the size of their babies and distance from medical facilities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-21413441460462916022018-03-22T20:29:41.366-05:002018-03-22T20:29:41.366-05:00This is definitely on the midwife. This was an ob...This is definitely on the midwife. This was an obviously large baby and a pro should have known it would be unlikely for the baby to rotate or turn????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-44082532380629894772018-03-22T18:11:30.121-05:002018-03-22T18:11:30.121-05:00Maybe Jill wasn't doing the evaluating.....sh...Maybe Jill wasn't doing the evaluating.....she didn't do good job with her own birthing situations......I think there are those who want us to think she has more education & experience than she truly has....good on Joy and that baby...❣Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-59453661734501981302018-03-22T17:43:10.754-05:002018-03-22T17:43:10.754-05:007:49 is allowed to have an opinion. You’re literal...7:49 is allowed to have an opinion. You’re literally bashing her for educating herself on possible risks to using an epidural.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-14750047856887539152018-03-22T16:38:40.779-05:002018-03-22T16:38:40.779-05:00I'm an "educated" woman whose child ...I'm an "educated" woman whose child might not be here in the perfect condition he/she is, had it not been for pitocin. I might not be here myself, either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-35039470138104704762018-03-22T16:32:33.312-05:002018-03-22T16:32:33.312-05:00Whoever got that bookcase out of the hallway and t...Whoever got that bookcase out of the hallway and the bedroom at Jinger's house should have been around at this breech baby's birth, too. A miracle worker with big things stuck in tight places, that was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-53770394992801286952018-03-22T16:13:21.699-05:002018-03-22T16:13:21.699-05:00While I totally think that c-sections are sometime...While I totally think that c-sections are sometimes necessary and life saving, and I think that it's probably safer for first time moms to deliver in a hospital, and I definitely believe in professional prenatal care, I don't think that praying that Joy has a natural delivery is badgering her. Natural deliveries are generally safer than c-sections, and I don't believe that at that time her father knew that the baby was breech. I'm sure he was happy and relieved that Joy and the babywere okay, no matter how she delivered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-86523127200629422982018-03-22T15:21:01.817-05:002018-03-22T15:21:01.817-05:00I think he wanted the pray for a natural birth in ...I think he wanted the pray for a natural birth in that C-sections are dangerous and if you have too many, it’s dangerous to have more kids. I think he just wanted his daughter to not have to go through a surgery and I don’t think it has anything to do with him pushing his daughters to the limit Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-27667515871952515192018-03-22T15:14:24.634-05:002018-03-22T15:14:24.634-05:00I don’t think they knewI don’t think they knewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-77492461504998644132018-03-22T14:31:42.465-05:002018-03-22T14:31:42.465-05:0010:23- Sure, it can happen to anyone. But your f...10:23- Sure, it can happen to anyone. But your friend was in the hospital with good doctors at hand. Joy was not... she was 30 minutes away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-81917742211451834902018-03-22T13:49:17.440-05:002018-03-22T13:49:17.440-05:007:49- Nice put-down. I vote for hospital births....7:49- Nice put-down. I vote for hospital births. That way, if something goes wrong, you've got expert medical care and the equipment close at hand. By the way, pregnacy/childbirth has inherent risks. I remember well the experience of my mother. If a woman feels better about the whole process by having pain relieving drugs administered, I say go for it. Unmedicated home births are not for everyone and NO ONE should feel pressured to do something with which they are not entirely comfortable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-40602333955156014252018-03-22T13:33:39.781-05:002018-03-22T13:33:39.781-05:00What midwife would say let's wait 20 hours and...What midwife would say let's wait 20 hours and see if a 10+ pound baby will flip at the last minute?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-34383547536347419402018-03-22T13:32:36.905-05:002018-03-22T13:32:36.905-05:00What are the chances of epidural trouble....vs. th...What are the chances of epidural trouble....vs. the trouble of birthing at home? I have never heard of anyone having trouble from an epidural other than a headache. Nor have I ever heard of a mother who was paralyzed or didn't love her child because she had an epidural and her hormones later didn't let her bond. That seems like some extreme cases you're citing with your opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-12039990457430589192018-03-21T21:43:21.382-05:002018-03-21T21:43:21.382-05:00I hope that in the future Joy will deliver in a ho...I hope that in the future Joy will deliver in a hospital & have a doctor or licensed pro midwife attending. Surely an ultrasound available sooner would have shown the breech presentation & an idea of baby’s size. I hope with the size of the sisters’ babies that there is not a predisposition of gestational diabetes. Gideon is adorable, by the way!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-68539539793082222002018-03-21T19:52:34.621-05:002018-03-21T19:52:34.621-05:00My guess is that Joy and Austin wanted to give the...My guess is that Joy and Austin wanted to give their baby time to flip...which is their choice and right. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6925412444274057427.post-54611171797188659182018-03-21T19:49:34.156-05:002018-03-21T19:49:34.156-05:00Ridiculous. No one wants to feel that pain. Ther...Ridiculous. No one wants to feel that pain. There are many side effects to using epidurals, pitocin drips, etc. that many, educated women rightly want to avoid. An epidural can be measured in a newborn’s blood for up to 30 days post-birth; it can cause or amplify PPD; it can render you completely paralyzed if the needle slips and severs the spinal cord; it disturbs the natural birth hormones and post partum hormones that are essential for bonding (short term and long term) with your children. These are only a few reasons to choose an unmedicated, home-birth. While painful, I assure you the joy is immense...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com