Tuesday, October 2, 2018

Josiah Did WHAT?!


During last night's Counting On season finale episode (be sure to read our recap), Josiah Duggar shares a piece of information that is a big, well, awkward. As most of you know, it is common for soon-to-be-married Duggar couples to discuss their upcoming first kiss, just to make sure they are on the same page. Josiah, however, takes it one step further and actually practices the first kiss on his hand, as he reveals in the video below. Do you think he will ever live that one down?


Photo/video courtesy TLC

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  1. That made me cringe, if I were him I would have kept that to myself, rather than have the put out onto national television

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    1. I think it’s fine ...now if he said he practiced on a doll or something that would be weird but they are known for no touching or kissing it’s nothing wrong with Not knowing there’s no shame in that

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    2. 12:00, well he did have pillow with Laren’s face on it soooo😬😬

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    3. A doll, a hand, a tree, what's the difference. All inanimate objects that will not return the affection.

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    4. It’s all just weird People! So many trying to make it sound sweet or normal for a GROWN MAN about to be married kissing his hand, or pillow, or mirrors, or trees. It’s not normal. It’s weird.

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    5. I don’t see how you can really practice if no one is kissing you back

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    6. Yeah... a bit awkward lol

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    7. some things are better left unsaid...….

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  2. I personally love that he isn’t afraid to admit that and he isn’t concerned with looking “cool” and putting on a front. I’d rather my spouse practice on his hand then on other girls he has dated. Thankful for his transparency! So happy for the new couple. And I love Lauren and her whole family! What a blessing to be a part of that family! Lily is so sweet!

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    1. We should also keep in mind that they probably don’t watch themselves on TV. I feel like they don’t really know that all these candid interview moments are actually put into the show. But as a viewer, their honesty, even if it is embarrassing, is what keeps me watching.

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    2. Yes! I agree anon @2:46

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    3. Yes! That's right

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    4. I felt the same way. He was transparent. It showed he was genuine. You just don't see that much anymore.

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    5. Best comment!!!

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    6. I liked your entire comment! I think Lily is so sweet too! Would love to see more of her!

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    7. Yes!!! There is blessing in keeping yourself for your spouse!

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    8. @ 7:07 There's also wisdom in learning exactly what you like and don't like in a future spouse by dating responsibly.

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    9. They do know those interviews get on tv, because they would go to Deanna's home to watch the episode air, atleast they did back in the day.

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  3. Too much emphasis put on the first kiss in my view - yes, it's exciting and special as they've kept themselves pure which is to be applauded but so much pressure they put on themselves in front of everyone too! I couldn't do it and admire the fact Jess & Ben did it i private.

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    1. Right. There’s nothing pure or admirable about using what should be a private and meaningful moment - a first kiss - as an opportunity to perform for 1000+ people.

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    2. But anon 10:14 You can't fault the kids even the adult kids for feeling like they have to perform when it's all they know. Their parents raised them this way. They were raised to be on a reality show which is why the adults and even married adults are still on a reality show. why do you think none of them have regular jobs?, It's because it's been ingrained in them to be on a reality show. They don't know anything else.

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  4. I think this just proves how immature and unprepared these young people are going into marriage. Kissing your hand is nothing like kissing another person, and planning it out like that before the ceremony is so unromantic and quite frankly cold and calculated. I have a higher opinion of Jessa and Ben now, and am glad that they chose to keep their first kiss private.

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    1. Not to mention creepy!

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    2. On please we were all immature and unprepared when we first got married. We all practiced kissing on our hand or mirrors etc. Of course missing your hand isn't like kissing a person but it was all we had before we had our first kiss.

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    3. Everyone’s first kiss should be in private. It has nothing to do with your parents, siblings, friends, or pastor. What a bizarre and gross practice.

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    4. It's not unromantic or cold or calculated (that would be practicing on a mannequin). It is pretty juvenile, though. :)

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    5. They are just fine! They are probably the Americans who will stay married! They actually love eachother for the right reasons... it has to be deeper than lust!

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    6. How old is old enough to not be mature for your first kiss ?? It is a very scary step in life for anyone, let alone the fact he has never done it ! Come on - it is special ! It would not hurt all youth to learn the lessons & have the respect for themselves & a future spouse. These folks show us a natural & real life course in growing up. I wish I had been taught some of these values. Also the other responses are spot on & everyone can relate if you are honest !! I would rather watch this family every day then the garbage that they put on TV for our youth to see. Very sad that our society has fallen into the pits of immoral words,clothes, & actions & they think they are something special - Yuk, is what I say & will not watch that garbage !!! Also jealously does not look good on anyone - ever !!!

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    7. Kissing doesn’t prepare you for marriage, but humility does :)

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    8. Oh yes they definitely should have practice on 10, 20 or 50 people before getting married great idea!

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    9. 2:08, no one said he had to kiss other people, he just didn’t need to say he practiced his first kiss with his hand ON TV. Some things are better left unsaid

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    10. You know that's not what the OP and others meant, 2:08.

      It's crazy to hold back hold back hold back before marriage like your life depended on it and also obsess about that first kiss like it's the turning point of your entire life. Then to take it to the level where you are so stressed about getting it "right" that you have to practice with your hand....

      Compare and contrast with simply and naturally kissing your date goodnight at the door and then floating inside, happy.

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    11. Give them a break!!! What, everyone should practice on humans before they get married? These folks are blast people to have the up bringing that did! Can't you see normal culture is missing something????

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    12. 12:49- Kissing someone before marriage is not having respect for yourself or future spouse? It's simply showing love and affection, hardly anything to feel remorseful about. I learned a lot by dating and having relationships before I met my husband. I certainly do not feel less of a person or like damaged goods. I learned what was important to me and had no doubts once someone came into my life that I felt I could commit to. My husband had prior relationships as well. It makes me feel good knowing he chose to be with me. We lived together before marriage, are senior citizens now and still married after all these years! The problem with religion is the man-made rules that churches enforce through promoting guilt and condemnation. I guess if you take everything in the Bible literally, this is the path you choose. I'm very glad it's not mine.

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    13. 7:11, what in the world are “blast people”? Might be a typo but your meaning is completely lost.

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    14. 7:56 You and I are twins! :)

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    15. 7:11. I hope humans practice kissing on fellow humans!

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    16. Ben's and Jessa's second and third kiss was awkward though. Go back and look at them. Their kisses were odd.

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  5. My cousin used to practice make outs by sucking the juice out of an orange πŸ˜‚

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    1. 😐some things are left better unsaidπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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    2. So funny! Learn how to kiss and get some juice at the same time!

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    3. This made me laugh πŸ˜†

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    4. Well that explains a lot of boys I kissed in high school. Except I think they had been practicing with lemons.

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  6. Let's not try to fool ourselves, we all did exactly that too. LOL. I remember before my first kiss me and my friends all talked about practicing for that first kiss. Josiah just happens to be one of the people who said it in public, but trust me, we were all once hand kissers until that first kiss. LOL

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    1. Speak for yourself

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    2. Umm..nope. I never was a “hand kisser”. That’s just weird.

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    3. LOLThat is what I was thinking too. Who hasn't done that growing up. I thought this season was very refreshing and honest. I like how Josiah is so open about everything. I just hope it doesn't get him too much trouble with his wife. :-)

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    4. Speak for yourself. 4:46. My first kiss was exactly that, a kiss on the lips of a real live boy. I was a sophomore in high school and he was a junior. We were backstage at the musical we were both performing in. Weeks of being on stage together, in and out of character, and horsing around like teenagers do led to that moment. I didn't practice on myself or an inanimate object first. That is just strange. I didn't have to discuss it with friends. It was a very natural thing to do. Who hadn't seen kisses before their first "real" kiss, or had simple cheek-pecking kisses from relatives? Honestly, all the Duggar-type build-up to a first kiss has gotten completely ridiculous. It's a kiss, not a critical mission to the Moon involving complicated rocket science. You're not about to go down in history for doing it.

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    5. Anon @ 4:46 The point is most of us weren't still doing it in our twenties, and certainly not doing it when we were engagd to be married!

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    6. Nope i never did that or even talked about it beforehand.

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    7. We were "all once hand kissers" lolπŸ€£πŸ˜‚ lol

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    8. Um, I was never a hand kisser, that’s just strange

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    9. If anyone was a handkisser they wouldn't have announced it to the world lol

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  7. LOL. Josiah you are hilarious LOL . Everyone of us did this too, it was either our hand or a mirror but we all did it. LOL. It is like an unspoken secret. LOLOL

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    1. Nope. LOL. Never kissed my hand or mirror. LOL. Those who did were in Middle School not grown-ups. LOLOL.

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    2. Totally disagree. I had my first 'real kiss' at 12. I've been happily married for 33 years. To each his/her own. What I actively dislike is the weird looks their parents give them when they are actually kissing for the first time, especially Jim Bob. I think that is really odd, and find it completely disrespectful. PDA we have never ever done. My DH and I agree that we certainly don't need to kiss or do anything publicly to prove our love to each other....or to prove that we are faithful to each other.

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    3. I was sweet 16 when I was first kissed.

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  8. No he won’t πŸ˜‚ Did he practice with the mirror too haha!

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  9. πŸ˜‚ Funny Josiah!

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    1. What’s funny?? That he chose his hand instead of a tree to practice kissing?

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  10. Josiah is hilarious! Truth is us girls practiced on posters of our celebrity crushes back in the day

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  11. Better a hand than a foot!

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  12. Time 11:42PM Tues 10/2/18
    That is so gross what Josiah said kissing on the hand. My suggest he should had kiss on the pillow.

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  13. Josiah and Lauren are definitely one of my favorite couples.

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  14. We are now regularly seeing Laura DeMaise in the episodes. This family really needs to address what Laura's status is in this household. It has been indicated that she is NOT the childrens' tutor, so why is she living there and why does a 33 year old woman have her name stenciled on the headboard of a bed in the girls' dormitory? This does not make any sense for this to be. Their moral belief system is so rigid that it would prohibit female adults who are NOT blood relatives from living under that same roof with grown males. This obviously would or could create desires that can not righteously be fulfilled....as in their own words about things like this. Duggars, Ellie, Lily, come out and please say what Laura is doing there.

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    1. I second that.

      Is her name REALLY on a headboard now?

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    2. I think this is absolutely NO ONE'S BUSINESS.

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    3. How exactly is she creating desires that can’t be fulfilled? She is older than any of the available boys, so what is the problem? She doesn’t sleep in the boys room, and I have never seen her dressed immodestly.

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  15. Oh my. He should have kissed his foot.

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  16. I admire this families moral values and the strength it takes to live by them. When you are truly in love it would be so hard to not give in to the urge to kiss your mate. These kids are strong in their beliefs and live by them. I wish I could have been that strong. I just love this family.

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    1. Yes!!!!! You said it! Same here. I wish my husband and I would have been taught some of these things! Our parents never talked about these things... when you go to far, it never feels good to know you didn't wait until your wedding day! Thank you Duggars for giving us insight on how to talk to our children!!!

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  17. Lauren: “ It’s the first time I get to kiss a boy”
    Josiah:” It’s the first time I get to kiss a girl on the lips”. “It’s not like kissing a tree”.
    OK....so many thoughts....

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    1. Yeah. It sounds like something elementary school kids would say. Not a man in his 20’s or a young woman about to be a Bride.

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  18. I agree that too much emphasis is put on the first kiss that takes place during the wedding ceremony. Our ministers always just let the couple kiss, if they choose, with no fanfare whatsoever. We never say, “ You may kiss the bride “. No one needs a minister to give permission to kiss. But with Duggar weddings, it’s like the kiss becomes the most important part of the ceremony, the thing the guests and family wait for in high expectation. In their ceremony, it was just silly that the minister acknowledged to the congregation that Jessa and Ben didn’t kiss. He said, “Something didn’t happen that was supposed to happen.” The minister did not need to address that. In fact, it was ridiculous to do so. But it goes to show that the kiss becomes the “end all, be all” of Duggar weddings.

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    1. Actually ministers have been saying that for an age!

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    2. Totally agree. I can hardly watch Michelle when her kids are given the permission to finally kiss. She’s practically hyperventilating.

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    3. Yeah, I feel like your just trying to find a way to have an issue. People have always said that and it is really valued in the Duggar Family because of the fact that it is a first kiss. Because of that, I understand why Jessa and Ben wanted to have theirs in private and why the minister made mention of the absence of it. Would you want your first kiss on National Television? I also disagree when you say that it is the "end all, be all" of the weddings. My reason for this is that the kiss signifies the beginning of their married life. So it is, in fact, the "start all".

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    4. I have never been to a wedding where the minister didn’t say that. It doesn’t put pressure on them. They are excited about their first kiss. You can tell they are really looking forward to it, so it is really sweet.

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    5. I think the minister said that at Jessa & Ben's wedding as a way to help stall the guests. The more he talked, the more private time the bride and groom had.

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  19. Good to know Josiah realized kissing a girl is different than kissing a tree😳🀷‍♀️

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    1. I don’t know about that. I’m from way, way up North. My hubby might compare my lips to tree bark somewhere around January and February!!

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  20. I'd relax about whether Josiah was not cool about admitting he kissed his hand. I don't think this has anything to do with him being too immature for marriage. They were a lovely couple who look to be very much in love. They were going to have their first kiss in front of about 1,000 people. I don't blame Josiah for wanting to make it good. I thought the first kiss turned out great! I noticed some of the family members thought so too. I'm sure Josiah isn't kissing his hand anymore.

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  21. Discussing your first kiss on national TV seems a bit strange to me. I guess having absolutely no privacy makes them OK with talking about something that personal on TV.

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    1. Really? Their first kiss in public? That's the least of all the trash on TV!

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    2. it's call reality TV!!πŸ™„

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  22. I find him practicing the first kiss normal. I practiced on a tree..keep the shows and news coming.

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    1. Sheila good one!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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  23. I thought it was both funny and sweet. He's maintained his purity for his bride, which is so romantic. I love Lauren and her family. She'll make a great mother someday, hopefully not too soon. Josiah will keep things interesting in their marriage and I think they are a great match.

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    1. Kissing certainly does not make a person "Impure". I will bet John David and Abbie have kissed!

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    2. 6:46, so what are your beliefs on what is considered purity before marrige, where do you personally draw the line? Intimacy should be saved for marriage and kissing a love interest is intimate.

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    3. 1:31. You said basically the same thing at 1:22. So I will answer your question according to God’s Word. The Bible says we are to “draw the line” at physical contact that could create life. Yes, kissing is intimate but not a no-no prior to marriage. The rest is up to the individual couples to decide when to stop so as to not put them in a situation as to add a third member to their party of two. If kissing is to much then wisdom says not to kiss. But, most of us certainly have a lot more self-control than that.

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  24. He made me cringe- saying that and the way he kissed her at the alter. I felt uncomfortable from then- with every kiss he made! He seemed very awkward. And then the take off in the car SO fast and crazy. The whole thing seemed very immature to me.

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    1. Oh.. please.....πŸ™„

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    2. I agree with the take off. It was as if he was just waiting the whole time for one thing and couldnt wait anymore.

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  25. From what I saw of the first kiss it paid off lol. Of course he will always hear about it but well worth the joking it will bring in the future.

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  26. This so ridiculous first kiss on your wedding day! They really are y iymmature! Nothing wrong with kissing before marriage! Do you really believe none of these couples didn't miss before marriage?

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    1. Should be immature. Sorry about typing errors.

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    2. I actually know many people who saved their first kiss for marriage. To me the immature part is the big deal they make out of it.

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    3. We saved our kiss for the wedding. However at the ceremony it was a short and sweet one and all other kissing was done in private.

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  27. made me think of an earlier dawson's creek episode where Dawson asks Mitch about kissing. My first kiss was at a 11 with a friend who I played with a lot. Too funny Sia!

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  28. I was kind of surprised about practicing kissing before the real deal. I would have felt like I was cheating by doing so. I just figured kissing was a natural part of life... no right or wrong way... just part of our expression of love to our partner. But then I didnt have my first kiss in front of 1000 people... I'm sure that would make things more nerve racking. I never really considered a kiss being good or bad either... guess I am a bit naive that wayπŸ˜€

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    1. I've never understood why kissing someone makes you "lose purity". IMO the Duggars have make this whole thing some sort of sign of virtue if they don't kiss before marriage.

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  29. To be honest I felt embarrassed for Josiah. He was way overthinking the whole situation, and I lay fault at this whole misguided ideology that has put saving a first kiss for your wedding as the end-all-be-all of Christendom. This culture has literally made an idol out of it. Saving your first kiss for your wedding doesn’t make you any more “pure”. Instead it creates this kind of anxiety where a grown man tells his future Bride to keep her head still so he won’t miss..and has angst about making his lips full enough...practices on his hand vs a tree(?).. Can JB and Michelle not recognize the absurdity of trying to control every normal, natural God-given desire? Extreme control is not in any way the same as teaching self-control. I find these rules, which are not Biblical, to be nothing more than pride (bragging rights) for the parents and eventually the couples. They all feel a little holier than the couple who waited for intimacy, but kissed prior to marriage. I’m a much older Christian woman, and I believe in saving intimacy for marriage, but I find most of the Duggars are rushed into marriages with people they really have not had time to know and turn it into some kind of unrealistic Hallmark movie where nobody works but just right love notes and stare at each other all day. . Marriage is hard. It’s a gift, but takes a lot of work. It’s so much more than saving a first kiss...and that seems to be their whole focus. Anyway, my 2 cents.

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    1. Very well said 6:23

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    2. Ok. It me. The OP. Meant *write* not *right*. Wanted to clarify before that’s what I will be tarred and feathered for on here.

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    3. 6:24, thank you for your well written post. I agree completely.

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    4. 6:24, You've made some assumptions in your opinions and everyone has right to their own opinions. We dont know what each Duggars's employmemt status is but I know Josiah works so you can't assume"nobody works" and i'm sure in their marriage it consists of so much more than " writing love notes and staring at each other all day." Most importantly yes we are given desires but where in your own personal beliefs should the line be drawn regarding acting on those desires before marriage? You say you believe in saving intimacy for marriage, well so do the Duggar siblings who marry.That is why they dont kiss a love interest before marriage.

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    5. Perfect. Perfect. Perfectly said. I have nothing to add because this is perfect.

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    6. You are entitled to your opinion just as they are entitled to theirs. They have never said that the Bible says not to kiss before marriage. That is just a choice they have made to help maintain purity. I don’t think the kids feel pressure about the kiss. They just want it to be enjoyable since they have wanted to kiss for so long.

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    7. Very well said! I think of Josh and Anna. Look what happened to them? Maybe if they waited and courted longer, some of Josh's issues might have come out sooner. The ones who suffered were Anna and the kids. Rushing into a marriage is never the answer. Josh is lucky that Anna chose to work through it.

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  30. My husband and I thought that there was too much emphasis on the kids at a wedding. I mean, it's just weird everyone waiting on you to kiss. So we didn't, we waited til we left the wedding before we kissed. That was my first kiss, after we were married and alone, and I don't regret it for a minute. It was so much more special then having it in front of everyone.

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  31. I am blushing for Josaih. Is nothing private?

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    1. He’s the one that revealed how he practiced kissing!!!

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  32. Haven't we all practiced kissing on our hands or a pillow? : ) But I did that when I was 12, not a grown adult!

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    1. If they don't want to kiss the person they intend to marry until after the wedding I'm OK with it. It's their choice, but making such a big deal out of it is tedious.

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  33. Two hundred years ago kissing a woman's hand was a sign of affection. Maybe the Duggars should revive that practice while saving themselves for marriage.

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  34. I appreciate that Josiah wanted to make it an extra special moment for Lauren

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  35. AGAIN < NOTHING PRIVATE WITH THIS FAMILY? ARE THEY GETTING LOST FOR TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT? mary keim mennonite , yes we kiss before marriage its ok!

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  36. Question that's been puzzling me:

    When do the girls remove their purity rings? Right after the first kiss at the altar? Are they then technically not pure any more? Because if kissing makes you unpure, that ring has to come off. Have we ever seen a purity ring worn (on the right hand) during the wedding ceremony? Does anyone know?

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    1. I'd be curious to know when they remove it too, but they would continue to be pure after they got married. A kiss doesn't make you impure. It's having intimacy outside of marriage, whether adultery or fornication before marriage, that's impure. Intimacy in marriage is pure in God's sight, because that is how He created things to be.

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  37. All this angst over something as simple and natural as a kiss. Sigh. I don't have any sense the Duggar offspring are complying with saving their first kiss for marriage out of any real conviction of their own but are complying with rules set up by JB and Michelle. The only couple that ever behaved naturally was Joe and Kendra and that was because they kept forgetting the "rules.

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    1. I'm interested to see if any of the younger generation Duggars follow the practice as they get older.

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  38. The whole kissing thing is beginning to be awkward. I don't know what's worse kiss and tell or don't kiss and tell. Like, I don't want to know, and it should be nobody's business...Jane

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    1. I agree. The Duggars discussing their private lives has been going on for years. They've run out of anything of value to discuss now.

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  39. Did Josiah have 2 boutonnieres on his wedding day 1 white and 1 red?

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