Thursday, November 9, 2017

Duggars in Texas

We are well into November, and although chilly temperatures are expected, many regions in the United States are experiencing colder-than-normal weather. In Laredo, Texas, where it's usually in the mid-70s this time of year (about 23 degrees Celsius), it's currently in the low 50s (about 11 degrees Celsius) and cloudy. Jinger Vuolo is bundled up!

For those wondering where Laredo is, it's in southern Texas, along the Mexico border. Joy and Austin Forsyth were in Texas last weekend, and they met up with the Vuolos in Dallas for a friend's wedding. Jinger played music with Ashley Salyer, the gal who was previously courting Nathan Bates.

Jinger (Duggar) Vuolo

Photo courtesy jingerandjeremy.com

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  1. I love her jeans!

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    1. SHE does not look like Jinger (I do not see a ring).
      Could be someone else for all we kmow

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    2. It's sat right there the picture is from their personal web site so pretty sure it's her ;)

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  2. Woah! Talk about a small world! Hope to hear more news from all the families soon.

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    1. Not really a small world. You use that expression when you just happen to be in the same place as someone else, when it's coincidental. This was a wedding. They were all intentionally in the same place.

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    2. Oh. My mistake!
      I just couldn't come up with the right phrase to say that it was cool that Ashley is being mentioned after the end of her courtship.

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    3. 4:53, do you feel better now? Wow.

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  3. Wow, Ginger, those are some very tight jeans!

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    1. They’re called skinny jeans and no they aren’t too tight. That’s how they are supposed to look. Judge much?

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    2. Doesn't she look great in them?

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    3. I remember when she started wearing jeans they were pretty loose and slowly but surely they started getting tighter and tighter.

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    4. Thanks for your judgement!

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    5. The jeans are very tight, that's not judgement that's a fact. Why she is dressing like this, who knows.

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    6. Tight would mean they don't fit properly; those jeans are "fitted," and that's simply the style of the pants.

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    7. I can't believe how many Christians are so quick to judge Jinger on her clothes. Are you sure you are Christians? We are not supposed to judge each other. I really can't believe all the nasty comments because you don't agree with someone's dress. Really people, there is so much more in the world to worry about, like what happened in that Texas church. And what happened in NYC on the bike path. And what happened in Las Vegas at a music festival. Put it into perspective people. Keep the judgement to yourself. Please be kind and uplifting to each other.

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    8. I dont understand why people seem surprised or offended when someone comments on her wearing tight ripped jeans. This is the same person who wrote a book "Growing Up Duggar" who talked about the importance of dressing modest and why they prefer wearing skirts and dresses. Lol

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    9. Anonymous 9:21, you're right, I've noticed that too. We don't fall into sin all at once, it's usually little compromises one at a time that lead up too it.

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    10. The original poster never said they were too tight. NOW who's judging????

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    11. Your just jealous because you don't look as cute as her, ginger keep living your life.

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    12. I actually think it's not right ginger that u wear jeans and pants try to show the light of the Lord cause u don't look Christian to me when u wear jeans and pants u show ur stuff to other guys in the world how do u think ur husband will feEl if other guys look wear they shouldn't cause for Christian's they shold only wear skirts all the time.

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    13. She looks great, those complaining are jealous and probably wear a much larger size.

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    14. I think they're too tight, too. Most pants young women wear these days are the same way. It's not flattering, and it misses the Duggar modesty mark by a mile!

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    15. 9:17, well good thing Jinger is married now, and she and her husband can make their own rules instead of just following after her parents opinions.

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    16. It's true, I am very disappointed at her. The first photos that she posted with LOOSE pants. And LOOSE shorts I didn't like it. Now she is posting TIGHT jeans later she is going to post short skirts showing her leg and later shorts that show her legs.

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    17. AGREE with 1:37, 3:03, 9:03, and 9:17. You are so right! When we let down our guard on Christian modesty and purity Satan deceives us by compromising our convictions little by little till we realize we went further than we ever intended too!

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    18. Looks like everyone here has nothing better to do than to judge others. Live and let live.

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    19. Well since the husband is the head of the house I guess if he doesn't mind her in pants then it's ok

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    20. It's nobody's business what she wears ! Shame on all of you !!

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  4. Lol, I needed to actually see it on the map. Thanks Ellie and/or Lily.

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  5. Looks like Jinger is reading a good book in this kind of weather in Texas If not so hot read a good book.

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  6. Low 50's sound downright balmy! We've got a mid-day temp of 20 with a windchill factor of 10 degrees. I guess come January, that will feel like a day at the beach!

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  7. I LOVE her pants! Good going!

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  8. just curious why the headings says "Duggars in Texas" as their last names are no longer Duggar (Joy Anna and Jinger) and thats the subject of the article.

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    1. Because just because they got married doesn't change who they are. They are still Duggar girls.

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    2. i woman never really losses her maidan name. we all know them as the duggars, and they will always be a duggar.

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    3. They are still a Duggar by birth even though they changed their last name.

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    4. They are all The Duggar Family...
      And always will be πŸ’–❣πŸ’š

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  9. So, parts of the US are seeing colder than normal temperatures; no big deal. Low 50s is not cold. No need to bundle up. You put on a sweater (a light one will do) and get on with it.


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    1. Well when the day before was reaching 90 it's cold.

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    2. In most parts of Australia, 11 degrees Celsius in the daytime is downright freezing. Currently 36 degrees Celsius here (97F) and summer hasn't even started yet, it's still just spring! So it's all relative :)

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    3. Yeah, I wouldn't call jeans and a light sweatshirt "bundled up."

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    4. So, it was 90 the day before or in Australia, 11C. Get a grip!! Today, it is colder than 11C here and I just back from a long walk.

      It is not relative. It is about attitude. By the way, 11C is not freezing cold. It has to be at least 0C for things to freeze.

      I find this silly. Here, it is not unheard of to have -20 or -30C temperatures, with wind or even colder in winter as well as 90F or warmer in the summer, with high humidity. It is not unheard of for temperatures to drop fast in a few hours, several decades of temperatures.

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    5. 2:22, 60 degrees is cold to me, everyone's body reacts differently to weather changes.

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    6. 50 degrees is cold for me I would have a coat on as well.

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  10. That's kind of funny for you to use the term "gal." My grandmother would always call immoral women "gals" and would say it with contempt. I wonder if any other readers parents or grandparents used "gal" in a negative way? But I know Ellie that was not the way you were using it. The word just brought up long ago memories. I live in Ga and we've still been running the ac. But it did rain today and brought in cooler weather. Last year at Christmas, we were wearing shorts!

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    1. "Gal" is a very Southern term. Ellie lives in Tennessee, so that is probably why she sometimes uses it in her posts.

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    2. Might just be your grandmother. Both of my grandmothers (in their 80s) say gal as a female version for guy.

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    3. Many women find the word "gal" not just dated, but actually offensive. It is particularly offensive to African American women due to the fact that it was used in the 19th and 20th century as an insult.

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    4. I think girl or young lady would be more respecful.

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    5. Interesting! I always heard it used as a more "country" way of referring to girls or women, but not in the way your grandmother used it.

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    6. Looks like mixed reviews! Interesting on both sides!

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    7. Oh, for pete's sake! I'm in Los Angeles and hear the term "gal" used to refer to a woman. It's the flip side of "guy." This being offended at everything is absolutely out of control!!!

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    8. 7:34 I'm African-American and I don't find it offensive.

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    9. Yeah. It is hard to imagine that African American women particularly find the term "gal" offensive. But I'm not African American. Can any of our African American sisters tell us if they find it especially offensive.

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    10. I am Caucasian and I find the term "gal" annoying, but not offensive. I'm not even sure why I don't like it, only that it sort of rubs me the wrong way.

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    11. 4:32. No one was offended that I read. The poster just wanted to know if someone else in their family had used the word in a negative way because it had brought back memories to them. That's all. But I will agree with you about offense being out of control in this country. It seems like a person can't say or do anything without it being taken out of context.

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  11. Love that shes rockin her skinny ripped jeans. She looks young, modern and modest!!

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    1. Young and modern definitely but skin tight jeans aren't modest. However, if her and Jeremy are hanging at the house I don't see why she can't.

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    2. I agree! She is so cute.

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    3. Jeremy wears skin tight shirts; what's the difference?

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    4. As a Pastors wife...??

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    5. Anon @ 12:12 as someone said Jeremy wears skin tight shirts and hes the pastor. I personally wouldn't care what my pastor, his wife or anyone wears, its whats in someones heart and how they treat others that is important to me.

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    6. I was watching the news and they were talking about skin jeans that if people wear they will have trouble gettin pregnant.

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    7. Really? Just curious how skinny jeans keep someone from getting pregnant. Can you elaborate? I will have to look that up.

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    8. 9:45, that applies to men not women

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  12. Bunch of anonymous internet tough guys vomiting words on here! They didn’t learn “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything!”

    Thank you for sharing! I always love updates on who is doing what and where! Love the photos!! #Jesusfirst

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    1. My goodness, 3:53, that is harsh. Because the Duggars have chosen to be public figures and put themselves out there, folks are entitled to their opinion. Having said that, I would hope that people could disagree with their choices without being nasty about the person themselves.

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  13. I believe her jeans are a little loose. I've seen Jinger many times in jeans now that it's no big deal. I'm wearing sweatpants around the house now, because when my legs get cold they ache. Hope Jeremy and Jinger hold each other tight and stay warm...Jane

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  14. But for some people 50 is cold Including me.

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  15. Jinger way to stay modern and modest. Luv those jeans. You and Jeremy are enjoying your time together. Thats awesome. Not that having lil ones is wrong. I just enjoyed my new life first, then babies.

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    1. Not agree with her new style it was better before

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  16. love you all !! Jinger you are just precious !!!

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  17. How girls/women get into some skinny jeans/sweatpants, I'll never know. I saw a pair of skinny sweatpants today that were so tight, the girl might as well not had any pants on. Every thing that could be outlined was. Not attractive at all.

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    1. Women from the 1500s would find your clothes immodest, too. It's all relative. Perhaps rather than fight it, you could join us in the modern age.

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    2. Thank you for shaming another woman based on her dress. If you can't uplift another human being with kind thoughts, best to keep those thoughts to yourself.

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  18. Has Jinger ever considered starting a fashion blog? She always looks so put together and stylish.

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  19. I am so in LOVE with Jinger’s new look! It is modern and yet modest! WOW!❤️πŸ‘

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    1. We know you “not agree”. You “not agree” several times.

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  20. What in the world is she wearing skin tight ripped jeans for? Isn't she a Pastors wife now? I hope Jill and Jessa never change like this. I always admired how the girls refused to change to try and fit into the worldly fads and culture, so I pray Jessa and Jill hold true to their convictions. My daughter really looks up to Jessa and Jill.

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    1. Oh my gosh! They aren't your legs why do you care? As a Christian you shouldn't be judging someone. You act like she is sitting in a bikini. Please keep your judgemental thoughts to yourself.

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    2. What's the difference between the "skin-tight" jeans Jinger wears and the very form-fitting knit tops that Jill likes to wear?

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    3. Yes, yes, and yes!

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    4. I agree. It is not modest at all. Too tight and not a good look for a pastors wife. She should stick to her convictions and go back to modest skirts.

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    5. If jeans means living in a"worldly" place, where on earth Di you live?

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    6. Those "convictions " weren't Jinger and Jill's; they are JimBob and Michelle's. The married daughters can dress however they choose now.

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    7. And...the modesty debate. How sad.

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    8. Anon 6:40. They were her convictions, her and her sisters wrote a book saying they were their convictions and went on to explain why. Their parents didn't force them to write that book.

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    9. So when Jessa charged people for a seminar on how to dress modestly, she really didn't uphold that way to dress herself?

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    10. Anon at 7:50pm. Jinger's jeans are not ripped.

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  21. A thousand comments on here about her pants πŸ‘–

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    1. I know it.....if she wears a dress it is too short, sleeveless or tight. I say let her be who she is, I haven’t seen anything in-Godly yet.

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    2. At present there are only 39 posts and not all are about her jeans, so a slight exaggeration there lol! I think people still comment because she is still the only sister to have broken the mould and worn pants/jeans/shorts as her every day choice for what to wear. I personally think its great that she is wearing what she wants and it in no way detracts from her faith, and she has never looked immodest.

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    3. Skinny jeans has absolutely nothing to do with Faith. Jinger is young and being responsible with family planning. Rock the jeans Jinger!

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    4. 9:21PM A majority of ladies like to talk about clothes and hair, I don't see the problem...Jane

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  22. Awwww, I don't like to see her in jeans, I prefer to see her in skirts where all these time I have seen her. I don't get why she changed. Those jeans look too tight..I don't think that's modest as the bible teach us specially she is the pastor's wife should give a better example as Christians that represent Christ in. Our life not only by words but in our clothes too.I just hope her sisters doesn't not follow her example of changing skirts to jeans. All of them look beautiful inside and their modest clothes. In this world we have to make a difference so wearing skirts only we are making a difference because in women most jeans, shorts,clothes that show all your body but as Christian women we should cover and dress with modesty no matter what other people think or said. We should pleased the lord.

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    1. That is a very judgmental comment you wrote. I believe as Christians we ought not to judge each other. Please keep your unkind thoughts to yourself.

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    2. She can be modest and wear jeans. It's her own personal decision.

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    3. Pants do cover, what are you talking about??

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    4. 9:49- It's sounds as though you'd like Jinger to please you, rather than God. She's an adult, capable of making he own decisions. Yes, some of them might not fall in line with her parents' preferences. People interpret the Bible differently and what you may think is immodest, may not be to someone else.

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    5. I think the Lord would be pleased to see people doing what makes them happy, as long as they are not hurting anything or anybody. If Jinger wants to wear pants, then she should be able to. She is not hurting anybody or anything by doing so. You can be a good Christian without wearing the prairie dresses that the Duggars and Bateses used to wear.

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    6. But what about Jill, Jessa and joy wearing skin tight tops when they are pregnant. Modesty goes out the window once they conceive so maybe Jinger is pregnant?

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    7. Waring skirts only makes a difference in the world? My Lord would be so disappointed with that concept. Doing your best, being kind, these traits make up an individual, NOT what you wear.

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    8. I agree with you 100%!! To please the Lord, not people around us..:)

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    9. AmenπŸ’–πŸ™

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    10. Maybe the Lord is ok with jeans?

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    11. There is no specific “dress code” on what you can and cannot wear. Although the Bible talks about modesty and modest apparel, no where does it say the exact length of skirts, dresses, shirts, etc. modesty means different things for different people. We cannot be the one to judge or claim “what God wants.” As long as the girls feel they are modest and pleasing to God, that’s all that matters. What you decide to wear and what you consider to be modest conforms to your own standards and convictions. And that is fine. We don’t tell you what is right. Really, When you get down to the heart of “Modest Clothing,” it is best to remember that modesty is truly not about a hemline. It is something that inspires ones heart to amend their whole lives to a greater level of purity.

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    12. I hope Jessa starts wearing skinny jeans too. She is adorable, and works to get her body back after babies. She’s only 25..Ben younger than that. He should be able to enjoy “the wife of his youth” while they are still “the youth”.

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    13. So, Ben can only "enjoy" his wife if she's skinny/a certain weight, a certain body shape, or While they're young? Or if she wears Skinny jeans? This comment is sooo wrong on so many different levels it's not even funny.

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    14. Well@7:00. I think 9:42 has a good point. How many young husbands, or any husbands, say “gee, can’t wait for my wife to get fat and only wear stretch skirts and sweat pants”? Loving your wife and staying attracted to them are two separate entities. Now, I’m an equalitarian so it does go both ways. When my husband got beyond my “I’m still attracted to you” weight I sure let him know. It’s taken a lot of treadmill time, but he’s backπŸ˜‰

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    15. Anon 9:42. Seems to me that Ben is enjoying his wife just fine. So you want her to walk around in tight skinny jeans, why so other men can look and lust after her? She is beautiful just as she is and carries herself with respect and Godliness and keeps private revealing things between her and her husband. She is a virtuous woman.

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  23. She looks adorable! I wonder where the pic was taken? It looks somewhat commercial so I am thinking she may be out in public somewhere. Those are not the couches they purchased just before the wedding but they could have gotten new furniture for the bigger space of their new home.

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  24. Jinger you look awesome! I'm so glad you are doing your own thing and wearing clothes you love. God bless you!

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  25. Jinger wears what she wants. Critics please mind your own business. Djeez!!!

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  26. Jinger looks great in her jeans! I am glad that she feels that she can do things a bit differently from everyone else in the family or the IBLP doctrine. There's nothing wrong with that!

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  27. Buffy Peterman-IsonNovember 10, 2017 at 4:12 PM

    With a family as large as theirs someone is bound to go rogue from the way they were raised. Ive asked this before and I'll ask again, wonder if Michelle and Jim Bob regret giving Jeremy their approval?

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  28. It's interesting to hear about the weather in other parts of the world. It's 9 degrees C here in Sussex (SE England)tonight. (48F).

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  29. -31C with the wind chill here this morning! Was a nice sunny day so warmed up nicely... I think our day time high was -10C. Definitely not used to such cold temperatures in November. We live in Northwestern Ontario.

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  30. Seriously God looks at the heart.If wearing jeans or not is all you are concerned about then that is legalism.Which is man made rules instead of the basis of Christianity Salvation through Christ.Jinger is a compassionate,sweet intelligent woman.Leave her alone.She has the right to be happy and practice her faith the way she sees fit.Please don't quote Paul about outward appearances.Because if you study history along with the bible.You will understand he was speaking to a newly formed church were many converts had come out of ancient pagan worship.That involved certain practices.That involved little or no clothing. He was trying to establish an order and basically teach people not to go in their club clothes.I don't mean to offend anyone I just have been misjudged in the past.But my faith has never deterred.Jinger is not out at the bars or clubbing.She is simply wearing jeans.

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  31. Wait! I thought Jinger and Jeremy were in PA?

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  32. Here is what I think my paster wife wears pants and she wears them to church.mosetis not showing any part of your body so I think wearing skirts are not modest you are showing your legs in pants your not and the duggers should not say anything she is married now.and to modest is beeping covered up is modest.they can not tell what to do what is the big deal
    It says no where in the BIBLE WHat to wear but showing your legs is not modest

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    1. My male pastor's husband wears pants to church. He's plenty modest and he looks great. :) This thread cracks me up. :) Oh, and I believe that the Lord does approve of jeans.:)

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    2. Glad he wears pants to church lol! This thread cracks me up too, so many more pressing things going on in the world yet here we all are commenting about someone wearing jeans. Its a mad mad world alright.

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    3. Lol! :) Yes, it's good that he wears pants vs no pants! :) Maybe everyone who doesn't like her jeans should be just be happy she chose to wear bottoms (vs none at all). :)

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    4. Thank-you both for a big chuckle, I needed that...Jane

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  33. 9:49 PM I don't think Jinger has changed. I believe she wore skirts and dresses because that was the dress code that her parents set for her. Being a child or a young lady living under her parents roof, of course she would obey them. Out of respect for her parents, I've no doubt Jinger will wear skirts or dresses when she visits them. Your saying that..."we should please the lord" is true, however, maybe Jinger and Jeremy's opinion on pleasing the lord is different than yours. 10 different people can read the same Bible verse and each person can have a different interpretation for that same Bible verse, it doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong in their interpretation. As you also stated,referring to Jinger and her sisters.. "All of them look beautiful inside." Isn't that really all that matters? To paraphrase what Jeremy said - Jesus didn't save women just to have them wear skirts. He's right! One more thing I'd like to add - The jeans Hunger has on in that picture are called "skinny" jeans, they are NOT as tight as you may think, they're made to look that way! Obviously Jinger wants to please her husband. If he doesn't have a problem with her wearing those jeans, why should you?

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  34. I live in northeastern Pennsylvania. We don’t bundle up until it’s get in average 30 degrees winter temperatures.

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  35. Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but I kind of wonder what's the point in taking a picture of her with her looking down reading a book? Is that so unusual for her or picture-worthy? She's not engaging anyone else or really doing anything, so I'm not sure why someone thought this would make a great picture (or a great picture of her). Not that I'm looking to the Duggars to entertain myself, but the picture is boring. It's taken from a distance, so it's even more random. If we're supposed to noting her outfit because it's gotten colder there, I'd be expecting a closer shot with her doing her typical "modeling" poses. The whole thing just doesn't make sense. It could easily be titled "Jinger reads a book"...like so many other billions of people.

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    1. You are not alone on this one. Thought the same thing. It just seems to drawing attention to her. Another sign she is living as a celebrity thinking viewers just want pictures of her. Seems self serving.

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    2. Jeremy took the picture. No need to over analyse.

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    3. Not over analyzing here, but it's not exactly a flattering picture of Jinger- you can't see her face, her lovely smile, her lively eyes, or a hint of her sunny personality. It's just a picture of a girl sitting in a corner reading a book...boring. If he thought it was cute that she was bundled up or something, they should have taken it outside with her leaning against the brick of the building or something else with some architectural interest or waited until she was really bundled up, outside on a sunny day.

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  36. All these comments about Jinger wearing jeans being "modern" Since when is wearing a dress or skirt somehow not modern?

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    1. Most young women wear pants more often than dresses or skirts, so wearing pants as a norm would be considered more "modern", whereas 80 years ago, most women wore dresses. Both are great. I'm more annoyed with people freaking out over her wearing pants because they think it's immodest. Jinger is an adult, and does not need to wear one thing or the other just because fans want her to.

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    2. Regina- Everything is relative to one's experiences. When I was growing up in the 1950's-60's, girls were not allowed to wear pants in the small-town public schools I attended. When I was a junior in high school, the rules were relaxed. I felt so liberated wearing jeans to school that first day. I still think of jeans as "modern" attire.

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    3. Anonymous #2- Your comment made me smile. I remember my mom being absolutely horrified in the early 90's that I was going to wear pants to Church one Sunday morning. Forget that I taught a very active 4-5 yr old class that often meant I might be portraying Goliath falling down as we acted out David and Goliath, me "busting out" of my grave clothes as Lazarus rising from the dead, or acting out any number of other Bible stories with all 25 children participating in some form or fashion. LOL In my class, we marched, pretended to climb-whatever the songs or story called for and the children loved it, remembered it, and loved coming. In her day, the children sat rigidly in their chairs while listening to the teacher read the story from the King James. Different time, different generation, different way of learning. :) In the dress-pants debate, I've seen some women wearing some immodest "modern" dresses/skirts and seen women wear their dress/skirt immodestly (not fully covered for whatever the activity was or sitting immodestly with a straight up the skirt view). Pants can be either modest or immodest too, cut/fit/material notwithstanding. I think it really goes more to intention/motive, as well as an awareness of the biological effect on the opposite sex. While I definitely want my husband to be attracted to me and interested in me, I don't want my next door neighbor or his teenage son to feel attracted to me. LOL I think modesty is simply dressing with that in mind. I'm loving my neighbor when I choose to avoid making him uncomfortable by "advertising".

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  37. Texas in November can be in 50's not uncommon at all

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  38. I often wear pants, but I'm still a bit disappointed. I love how the Duggars wear skirts so fashionably. If I could pull it off so well I probably would wear skirts most of the time.

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  39. Thank you for this blog and thank you TLC for showing the Duggars as they grow up. Jinger and Jeremy are such an inspiration as they shine the Light in this dark world. Countin On is literally The only show I watched on t.v. and I hope it continues. I find Jeremy and Jinger very refreshing and thankful for how God is using them for such a time as this.

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  40. I like to see her hair with natural curl...
    Looks fuller ,nice...πŸ’πŸ»

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  41. Maybe Jinger should be judged by her actions and words and not by her clothes. Maybe if Jinger is going to be judged at all it will be by the Lord. Whether she is wearing skinny jeans or a long skirt shouldn’t have any bearing on what’s in her heart. Plenty of good, decent women wear jeans and shorts and bathing suits.

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  42. I am a woman (senior citizen) and can't remember the last time I wore a dress or skirt. I just find pants/shorts more comfortable. You can dress them up or down, depending on the occasion. I remember the Dark Ages, when we had to wear dresses to school. Those were the days when women wore nylons and girdles with garters to hold the dang things up. It was a form of torture. Later, I thought the invention of pantyhose was the next best thing to sliced bread- now, I can't remember the last time I bought a pair! Life is much easier now, thankfully!

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  43. I came to the comments to see how many of them were about her wearing pants, I bet many of the people saying stuff about it wear pants!

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  44. I like that Jinger is making some choices of here own, like wearing blue jeans. Would really like to see their new house! Could them give a photo or video tour? Ask them!

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  45. I must admit I like her old style better. Just my opinion:)

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    1. Thank you for saying that in such a sweet way. I like her new style, since I know she likes it, and that's all that really matters, but I think it's fine for everyone to have an opinion. I don't like when people act like they actually have a say so in another persons clothes.

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